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ACE Not Accepting New COVID-19 Patients

Discussion in 'COVID-19' started by Rye83, Mar 28, 2020.

  1. MikeP64

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    Fear of dying makes a pragmatist of many an otherwise noble person.
     
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    If a fear of dying was used as an excuse by every doctor then we would see all doctors walking out of surgeries and hospitals whenever a deadly disease walked in. Thank goodness that is not the case except in this example being discussed here. I was a member of the armed forces as I am sure a lot of the members here were also. Did we have the right to lay down arms simply because we ran out of ammunition? No! If we did, we would have been shot.
     
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    I read that as they do not have protective gear... if they all get sick who will take care of every other medical problem that arises... I for one understand ....
     
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    I didn't take it as him talking about the doctors or hospital. More so about people who can't understand why the hospital would make a logical decision to not accept new COVID-19 patients and how accepting more could result in far more people dying or becoming infected.
     
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    Logically, why would any hospital take in a COVID-19 patient? Logically, they can reduce risk by not accepting infected patients.
     
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    Take it like a man die at home
     
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    About 1 week ago, the life partner of a very close friend had very severe pain in the lower right side of her abdomen. At 3am her mother brought her to the Provincial Hospital. The doctor there sent her to ACE Hospital for a lab test. In the meantime, her life partner had also arrived at ACE Hospital, but was waiting in the car. Then he received a message from his life partner that she and her mother were refused entry to ACE Hospital because they were not wearing a mask. ACE Hospital refused to give her a mask. So my friend went to the entrance and asked for the nurse in charge. After a discussion with the head nurse, his life partner (without her mother) could enter and have the urgent lab tests done. This solution was acceptable to my friend.

    Of course it would have been better if the life partner had brought a mask. Nevertheless, it is understandable that one forgets the mask in case of very strong pain and stress. But under the suspicion of an acute appendicitis the ACE Hospital could have provided 1 (one) mask, couldn't it?

    It is very questionable that the ACE Hospital closed the hospital for corona cases due to scarce resources (masks and protective clothing) but also due to overworked staff. With this action ACE Hospital putting an extraordinary burden on the colleagues at Silliman Hospital. Because one thing is clear, Silliman Hospital has to deal with the same problems.
     
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    I said many, not every or all. Many is too strong as applied to health care workers facing this virus, it implies a majority, which up to this point has not happened. My bad.

    This virus is as big a test of a persons character that many health care workers will ever endure. The choices they make in the face of this virus can be judged by a higher power or by their peers.

    The Hippocratic Oath is not the same as the UCMJ.
    Not in my military since 1945 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Slovik
    Not officially that is.
     
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    I'm not sure what type of jobs can be described as a duty and which can't, but it seems like medicine at the hospital level, is pretty close. Their job is to save people and sometimes that subjects them to risks. Do firefighters get to decide to not fight a fire because it is dangerous or a police officer get to not respond to a call where there were shots fired. Being a soldier requires the ultimate duty.
     
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    There needs to be a balance between helping those with COVID-19 and helping those with all other life threatening medical conditions. The point of all this social distancing and quarantine stuff is to prevent the hospital from getting overwhelmed and becoming incapable of dealing with life threatening injuries and illnesses that can actually be treated. I get that most posting here are boomers in the high risk of death category for this virus and are scared but let's not be f'n ridiculous. Other illnesses didn't magically go away because of this virus, you aren't the only people who matter and need medical attention.

    Someone gets it. :meh:

    Sure, now imagine that firefighters didn't have firetrucks or water and the police and military didn't have firearms or body armor. If you think those professions could do their jobs and wouldn't walk away from the job under those conditions you are sorely mistaken. That is what the hospital is dealing with.
     
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