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  1. NYC

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    Anyone on the forum familiar with General Aviation in the Philippines for someone who is already a licensed pilot from a country other than the Philippines?

    Or, does anyone know of a contact that might have any information about private flying there?

    NOT looking for flight training...thank you. Been at it since 1969!
     
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    Owner of the Finish Line Restbar at the airport is a pilot and has a few planes.
     
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    Thank you. That will be helpful. How's the food at that restaurant, btw?
     
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    Food is pretty good - I especially like the breakfast burritos.
     
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    Hi NYC: I have a U.S. private pilot's license (single-engine land) and I received a biennial flight physical in the Philippines about 2 years ago. I researched converting my U.S. license to a Philippine license, but I did not follow through with it -- and I have not flown here. But, I may be able to answer some of your questions. What are your questions?
     
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    We discussed the issues surrounding the issues on the Living in Cebu forum quite extensively. Not sure if I can recommend you read the information presented there. After months of conversation, it convinced me that I won't be flying in the Philippines unless some misguided pilot decides to relocate his plane to the Phils.
     
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    Usually pretty good.
     
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    Thanks for the help. My first question is "Where do I start?" Or, "Who do I talk to?" As suggested by by Wrye83, I will talk to the owner of the Finish Line and he can probably at least point me toward the proper bureaucrat. Some time back I sent this question via email to the Philippine government aviation authorities, but (I suppose unsurprisingly) I received no response.

    I hold an Airline Transport pilot license (with a bunch of type ratings), but only looking to convert to a Philippine Private Pilot license so I might be able to get myself around the islands without having to endure the airlines through Manila, or ferries that never quite seem to go (without huge time wasting) where one needs to go.
     
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    Thanks you for pointing me to that forum. I looked into it and found this post by "Living in Cebu" forums member miles-high posted in August, 2013:
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    "OK here’s the process you have to go through to get a Philippine license… Just like any other “foreign” phobia in the Philippines, it is rather complicated… It is easier to obtain a US, Canada, UK or other license and convert it here (which see later).


    If you are not a citizen, you would first need to obtain a student permit (much like a student visa) from the Immigration, even if you are a permanent resident, 13(a), 9(g) or whatever visa you already have.


    Then, you would need to go to the Civil Aviation Authority of the Philippines (“CAAP”) head office in Manila to get the medical exam done and a student permit. You must go to Manila to get these, there are no designated medical examiner system here.


    You then fly with an instructor, about PHP15,000 per hour including instructor’s fee. You fly 8 hours plus and take the “pre-solo” check ride. After you flew 40 hours, you apply and take the private pilot exam on all 10 subject matters, again at the CAAP office in Manila.


    After 40 hours plus and you are ready to take the check ride, the examiner “usually” comes from Manila, you are responsible for his or her airline ticket plus PHP3,000.


    If you have a foreign commercial license, you would need to fly 10 hours dual, private license 15 hours and take 1 test, fly the check ride and your license will be converted to the equivalent Philippine license. This is probably the least expensive way to obtain a Philippine license.


    Also, you could bring your own US airplane, must be a US registered (no other country), private “small” single or twin engine airplane and you can keep it indefinitely and fly under your US license."
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    That being the case (and I can't vouch for its accuracy, but it sounds quite a bit like the way the Philippine government might do things) it sounds over-the-top complicated. With over 23,000 flight hours, most all of it as a captain for a major U.S. airline, I won't be going through that process. My best bet (as is widely suggested on many of the aviation threads over there) is to acquire a U.S. registered airplane and fly it with my U.S. license, which seems to be legal in the PI.
     
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    There is a flight school at the airport that might be able to guide you in the right direction. It's called Royhle, Korean "owned" school. If you contact them ask for "Essan" and tell him Dustin recommended them. :wink:

    http://www.royhleflight.com
     
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