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Merck’s Covid-19 Pills

Discussion in 'COVID-19' started by PatO, Oct 2, 2021.

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  1. PatO

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    Positive early results from Merck’s pills. This home treatment could be the solution society needs.sure hope it works and affordable to all.

     
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  3. jimf

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    Hello Pat, it's been a long time. Happy to read your posts and trust you are doing well.
    I believe there already is a solution to covid. It's called **********.
    It's no big secret. I don't think why most of us are denied it is a secret either.
    ...here's a link to the article. It's a few months old.

    https://www.thedesertreview.com/new...cle_6a3be6b2-c31f-11eb-836d-2722d2325a08.html
     

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  4. SkipJack

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    I don't know.
    Why is medical quackery so widespread?
    Why are there so many people with a predisposition to believe something that is only supported by rumor?

    The article you referenced cites: Dr. Pierre Kory told the world on December 8, 2020, that ********** "obliterates" this virus.

    But here is a video by Dr. Pierre Kory stating that he got infected with COVID-19 while taking **********.


    Why do you and so many others have such a strong desire to believe unsubstantiated rumor?
     
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    Finally a question that has an indefinite truth!
     
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    Stop spreading this nonsense. It has not been proven to cure sh*t other than parasites. I'm about to ban this drug from being mentioned on this forum.

    Edit: satisfied with the word replacement. It fits. If you have a valid study proving the stupid drug works please post it here and I will remove the stupid edit.
     
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    The author is unimpressive, the facts and the data are. Unsubstantiated rumor? How can someone say this? There is plenty of data from all over the world demonstrating the effectiveness of ivor-mechten for prevention and improved outcomes.
    Dr Kory pleaded to the government to allow it.
    there's just no money in ivor--mechten, nor a tool to force the will of the government.
     
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    2015 Nobel prize winning med, its on the WHO list of preferred meds, completely safe, and It has been used off label as an antiviral for decades, with great success.
    Yet you threaten to ban discussion of it?
    Isn't science about differing thinking and evidence? Data and findings are constantly challenged, it is the essence of scientific debate. Does science even exist without debate? It does not. The idea of censoring debate is repulsive, and the antithesis of science.
    Studies and peer reviews are forthcoming. Plenty of positive preprint data from all over the world and from numerous physician groups. NIH acknowledges its effectiveness, but advises against it because dosing has not been worked out. Funny, they didn't have any problem pushing the jab with ZERO long term studies (typically take 10-15 years for a vaccine to come to market, mRNA for humans...10 months), ZERO informed consent, and a third booster with ZERO data on how it would effect the risk profile. The WH overrode the FDA on this, prompting yet more resignations from senior FDA staff, out of principle.
    That "horse dewormer" has been used safely on about 3.5 billion people over many years. I'll take it before that jab any day, and be better off.
    Hey, try comparing the covid case and death rate from Israel, Singapore, and the US, all developed, wealthy countries and highly vaccinated.
    Compare it to India. Poor, dense population centers, developing, and 12-13% vaccinated.
    Then tell me why I should take the chance on one poison jab, after another, after another...?

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34466270
     
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    Who would have known the mere mention of this would cause such an unwarranted and hostile response.
    Disappointment is an understatement
     
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    The evidence you cite for other viruses (such as dengue, Zika, HIV and yellow fever) is based on IN VITRO studies and I assume you know the difference between IN VIVO and IN VITRO.

    Furthermore: The drug you promote "has been shown to inhibit the replication of SARS-CoV-2 in cell cultures. [This means IN VITRO]. However, pharmacokinetic and pharmacodynamic studies suggest that achieving the plasma concentrations necessary for the antiviral efficacy detected in vitro would require administration of doses up to 100-fold higher [this means IN VIVO] than those approved for use in humans."

    Even the very well-respected Lancet says this drug "inhibits the replication of SARS-CoV-2 in vitro at concentrations not readily achievable with currently approved doses [this means IN VIVO]. There is limited evidence to support its clinical use in COVID-19 patients".

    I hope you understand the significance of in vitro and in vivo and the concern relating to the one hundred fold safe-level usage in vivo. I am sure everyone here, without a single exception, would welcome the use of any SAFE drug to help the world in the fight against Covid-19 and if further (currently ongoing) studies prove it can be used safely in vivo with the desired effect then no-one is going to contradict you. If it proves safe and requires sticking an egg size piece up my rectum then I will accept it - no-one is disputing your desire to find a treatment but the evidence is definitely NOT there yet. When some evidence states a drug is effective (usually by in vitro studies) and other evidence states the dosage required is dangerous in vivo then science has to go with the safety aspect and not the effectiveness (even if it is 100% effective in vitro).
     
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    I really don't care if you think the vaccine is poison or not. Society should move on and open everything back up. If you want to eat horse paste, drink bleach or rub essential oils all over your body more power to you. It just isn't going to be promoted here as a valid cure for covid...because it is NOT.
     
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