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Please gentleman, have some patience, understanding and respect of the local culture!

Discussion in 'Dumaguete City' started by Mark K, Aug 10, 2019.

  1. Mark K

    Mark K DI Member

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    On two occasions in the last week I have witnessed an expat being disrespectful, rude and aggressive towards the local staff in a supermarket. For very minor reasons (I won't go into the details as it's not really relevant) the two men started finger pointing, raising their voices, and hurling insults towards the staff such as "you have no brain!", "you're an idiot" and "why are all Filipinos so stupid?"

    One shop assistant was actually in tears, the other close to tears. On both occasions I felt it necessary to apologize on behalf of their behaviour and explain they were being unreasonable and not to worry about it or take it personally.

    Please please can we all try and be patient and more understanding. Have you no appreciation of the "saving face" culture here? The staff are just acting under instructions and doing their best.

    I was, quite frankly, both embarrassed and disgusted by what I saw. I condone violence but must confess I felt an overwhelming desire to punch them!

    I truly hope not many locals think this is how foreigners behave here. Remember we are guests in their country and the people here are generally extremely welcoming, friendly and hospitable. I hope this doesn't change because of idiots like these........
     
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    I have had the same experience several times as you Mark, I try to talk to the rude expats in a polite way, maybe you have a bad day but it's not the fault of the staff, but empty eyes, no understanding, you can't fix stupid
     
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    You can take the trailer trash out of the trailer park but...

    The types that do this are losers. They have been losers their entire life. They look and talk down to these people because it makes them feel better about what a loser they are. It has nothing to do with accepting local culture, it is a mental illness that is causing these losers to project their own self-esteem and self-worth issues onto others. Everything they are saying to and calling these unfortunate Filipinos is exactly how they feel about themselves. Wanna test it...call them trailer trash/euro trash and watch their reaction. It will definitely hit a nerve. (Don't actually do that, it will only start a fight. The trash that does this isn't even worth the energy it takes to vocalize the word "trash". I will only step in if I see a foreigner getting physical with a local, or if I'm 99% positive throwing some extreme aggression in their face would have them back down quickly. Aside from that I do what you do, comfort the local and tell them it is the foreigner that was acting like an idiot.)

    That's not a result of a bad day. That is the result of being a walking talking dumpster fire. These types should suicide themselves to make world a better place.
     
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    Well, in the Philippines if you insult local peope all the time you might get away the first few times. But then it is getting dangerous. No court case for insult. It is solved in a different way. I remember two or three cases. That's why be polite and never forget what might happen to you if you are not.

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    Good post. I've been here over 7 years and twice I've felt compelled to apologize on their behalf after witnessing the rudeness. Both times it was appreciated by the locals.
     
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    Well, a few dais ago I got mad on the Siliman radio logic staff.
    All the "locals" (some thirty or more) fetched up with endless waiting, agreed with me and supported my complain.
    I got my prepaid money back and spend the P 30,000 in an other hospital.
     
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    No it isn't. Some of these losers have been doing this for decades. There is little risk of a Filipino resorting to violence. It is far more dangerous to act like that in the US.
     
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    Maybe locals don't use violence against rude expats, but what I observe is, no matter if it's an expat or other locals who behaving rudely, these people get no respect in return and get ignored like they don't exist, seen that many times and love it
     
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    When i first lived in dgte 6 years ago it lived up to its name : the city of gentle people. 8 years later here I am back but its not the same place I left. I have always found
    All Filipinos, the kids and indigenous families to be good people welcoming respectful and
    Kind. And any expat who insults shames or shouts profanities at anyone in the service or retail business is simply an ahole and should be ignored.
    While I'm still convinced that the majority even more say, 80%
    Are of that temperment sad to say the rest IMO are being willingly westernized too.
    Ive been happily married to a filipina and have our own 2 kids btw a major factor is because the culture here is better for raising a family than anywhere in the states.
    However,unfortunately I've noticed since Ive been back that the ugly expats have not had the best influence on some of the natives either. Money begets greed and envy sometimes. New found wealth albeit modest, and the obessive (sp) tech compulsion to buy but buy or selfie selfie me ruined a generation back west n is now doing it here
    Cebu and Makati now resemble modern day indutrailized micro cities like NY or Tokyo. Never saw it so bad traffic congestion n more n more money grabbers born everyday
    But not all good has changed in 6 years here either.
    If you've ever been quoted a ridiculous fare 70 pesos because im foreign to go 3 km, almost run over or always cut off by many riders than youll know what im talking about. One thing that really irks me is line cutting.
    Thats something that ill call someone out on. Happens too much here. I was taught and my wife is same way n my kids will 2
    Manners are more impotant than laws or money.
    Ive decided the culture is foreig too fast here getting to corrupted by the westerners here not to mention the absurd prices ppl place on their homes
    Double what it was 6 years ago same house more depreciation double the price. Go figure. Greed begets greed too. Blame it on us but if your not part of the solution then your part of the problem too.
    I'm not wealthy if i were i would help all the street kids but I'm also not stupid enough to get ripped off on a house thats already maxed out appreciation 6 years ago.
    Happens all time back in old countries.
    So i decided its time next year to move to my wife family province before i wind up in an accident -
    This place is too small to hold all these ppl n traffic- with some uuninsured no regard no helmut young pinoy or lola who cant swerve to avoid me. So I prefer to walk and watch another commercial or condo project spring up every month.
    otherwise always loved dgte when im gone dont lose all your charm
     
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    Mark K

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    I think you lost 2 years of your life somewhere along the way. It must have been fun :smile:
     
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