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Stupid is as stupid does

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  1. tis me

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    According to the dictionary the meaning of STUPID is having or showing a great lack of intelligence or common sense. In my 15 years of living in the Philippines I see it every time I leave the house.
     
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    I want your fully loaded pizza without the olives, waitress no sir can,t do that, me why not, waitress because the menu says olives on the pizza, me but I don,t like olives, waitress sorry sir but the pizza have to come with olives. And this one from yesterday, a group of five was a the Lantau restaurant for lunch we all ordered at the same time, after a wait of 15 minutes 2 of the meals were served 5 minutes later 2 more were served but not mine, I waited for 5 minutes called the waiter over and inquired about my meal.'' THE ANSWER WAS SORRY SIR YOUR ORDER WE DON,T HAVE IN STOCK''. The lack of intelligence or common sense, you be the judge.
     
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    This is not the experiences I have had at Lantaw over many visits there; it is a restaurant I can very highly recommend. Generally all the orders come at once or very close to each other - they tell us at the time of ordering if there is a delay on an item due to preparation time.

    I think many issues about poor service in establishments must be down to poor training. Often on this forum I have made comments about educational standards and that is a factor but job training should take account of that - it is about taking someone from the point they are at when they arrive up to the point you want them to be. I heard that BPO recruits undergo 6 months training before (I assume) they are put in their service roles - if you have ever spoken with a Philippine-based call centre you will know they are very good.

    I am not certain about 'common sense' being an 'or' to "lack of intelligence" - it does not require specialised knowledge but it must be a result of some form of education (at home, online, at school, on the streets) and all education requires intelligence.
     
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    I understand what stupid means. I live in the States.. I see it everyday.
     
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    You're expecting western style service and communication from another country. Your expectations should change with the environment you are in.
    Why they can't remove the olives from the pizza? Maybe they are already premade and it would take too much work to pick out every olive from the premade pizza? That's their rules or policy. Just go with the flow, pick a different pizza that doesn't have olive on the menu.

    As far as them telling you they don't have your order in stock. That's just bad customer service and communication. You deal with this every time you go to a restaurant? I for sure have experienced bad customer service and communication from restaurants and other places I shop. Ever work in the office? Bad comm all day long..

    Nothing you described tells me they are stupid, not intelligent, or have no common sense.
     
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    LOL @ moderator for moving this conversation to a new titled thread!
    The better title though would be "Dum Info"
     
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    Well...I agree saying a country or a group of people are stupid is a not a good generalization. I also agree that you have to lower expectations when living in the Philippines. I do not agree that common sense or customer service is common in the Philippines.

    I'll tag along with the pizza scenario; I wanted a pizza, no mushrooms...I find them nasty little things that remind me of slugs. Was told they could not do that...WTF? I'm asking for a pizza with a less ingredient, not asking to replace it with something else. Actually had to have the manager come out and agree to make the pizza without mushrooms. Customer service...no, plus the pizza sucked.

    Growing up, I actually worked at 3 different pizza joints, 2 are chains and I guarantee the only thing we ever pre-made was sauce and cheese and that was only when we knew a rush would be coming on. Obviously that was many years ago, but making a pizza is not exactly rocket science. The size of many these places are not capable of making and storing all pre-made pizzas.

    Stating that ordering food that is not made to what the customer would like being "rules or policy" would reinforce the lack of common sense when it comes to a basic business practice.

    I tend to believe that most expats staying in the Philippines do go with the "flow" more often than not and recommendations of bad service & food or great service & food goes a long way. Obviously we are a small minority of folks that visit establishments but I try to hit up places with the wife that folks recommend and we have found some gems and customer service is big for both of us.

    Unfortunately the vocal ones seem to not be happy about anything or the ones looking how rosy things are and defend everything; the rest of us are just chilling out.

    Shawn
     
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    Probably because you made them remove the mushrooms.

    Foreigners to the Philippines need to stop kidding themselves thinking they never experienced businesses with bad customer service or policies that didnt make sense or common sense. Once you are in the PI it is easy to bash the things you hate because humans always see greener grass on the other side than where they are.

    I always have said moving to PI is not for everyone.. In fact I would say that it isnt for most.
     
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    You want to know what real stupidity is ? Go to a small town in the Midwest of the USA and ask for example: Where is Europe or the Philippines. Or maybe you ask some more questions about international politics. Then you know. Now, the Philippines are a poor country whereas the US is a rich country with a good school system. So who is more stupid ? If I had to vote: You.
     
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    I see the use of the phrase "common sense" being used quite a lot. In my 67 years I have found that the one thing about common sense is that it really is not that common, and that is the shame.
     
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