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Will Our Quarantine be Lifted

Discussion in 'COVID-19' started by PatO, Apr 9, 2020.

  1. Rye83

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    Worth noting that Bacolod, along with Dumaguete, are chartered cities. They can, and do, operate independent of the provincial governments. So while the Negros Occidental governor is ending the ECQ early Bacolod has decided they won't go that route last I read. Dumaguete would be well within their right to do the same so I wouldn't get to excited about what the provincial governors are doing as the major financial hubs in each province can keep their economies locked up if they so choose.
     
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  2. Mikal

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    Oh my, really? So I was completely wrong about that? Yikes. If that's true then I had better delete a recent post that I made stating the opposite.
     
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    Testing 130 million people even once, which only would give their status as if the date tested, will never happen in a reasonable time in this population of 130 million plus people. The disease would long have run its course like the Spanish flu did early in the last century. It is more realistic to spend those resources working on a vaccine. I cannot understand the public emphasis on testing, especially when the tests are not proven to be reliable. And they are a false sense of security for those tested. I wonder how many people would even want to be tested if there was even a 10% chance of a false positive, resulting in institutional quarantine and probable stigma?


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    'You can't manage it if you can't measure it.'

    I think that's what most of the uproar about testing boils down to.
     
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    Last I heard, the Germans were doing 60k tests a day. Some of the Chinese kits sold were as poor as 20% accurate, meaning up to 80% chance the test came back negative when the patient was positive. Probably worse than not testing at all. The Brits bought 2 million of these kits at $10 each. Taiwan has a kit out that’s 90% accurate and gives results in an hour.
     
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    And they need to improve the 90%. The only way to improve it is performing multiple tests in the same person but... With 10% inaccuracy and a false positive, the chances of a healthy person contacting the disease under institutional quarantine are too high. Great comments.


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    Yes, enforcing a group quarantine, like on those brought in from Badian recently, would basically guarantee that if any one person were infected, all would end up infected. I’m very worried about those 10k people under lockdown in Cebu City. No way out, no further testing and who knows what kind of support with food or medication?
     
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    Paragraph 1 of the linked 17 april abs-cbn article says: <<A 49-year-old man who had tested positive for COVID-19 has been cleared of the disease, which means there are now no active coronavirus cases in Negros Oriental, local health officials said on Friday. According to Dr. Liland Estacion of the provincial health office.........>>

    However Paragraph 5 of the same article says: <<Due to the number of coronavirus cases in Negros Oriental, the provincial lockdown was extended until April 30 to curb the fast-spreading disease. >>. (note present tense)

    Is someone using the chinese playbook, or is my english that bad, or what am i missing, but this makes NO sense ????????
     
  9. Always a Poppy

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    Yes, I noticed that. I didn't make sense to me either. Not back-tracked to look again, but I'm sure that there were two paragraphs contradicting each other on the total number of cases. Something like 4 in one and 28 in the other. Struck me as a load of 'cods'.
     
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    Just an additional note, but anybody who falsely reports or orders the false reporting of the real number "....to avoid panicking people". should be imprisoned for "negligent manslaughter" and forever disgraced and lose face. (oh right, fat chance)
     
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