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US pensioner is second arrested for trafficking in June

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  1. Jack Peterson

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    Totally Understood and I for one commend this statement.:pompus:

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    Jack Peterson, Jun 30, 2015
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    It was obviously the people next door.
    I have seen this disturbing verbage before, I copied the following from the posted article..
    "RA 7610 prohibits adults from being with underaged persons, those 12 years old and younger or those 10 years under his/her age, in any public or private place unless they are related by blood, affinity or some bond recognized by law, custom or tradition. The penalty is imprisonment and a P50,000 fine."
    This gives the police plenty of leeway to harass, extort from, or arrest at least half the foreigner/Filipina couples in the RP.
    So, by law a couple with one of the members being more than 10 years older is subject to arrest. Is that how you people see this?
    This ought to make the 60 year old guy a little nervous with his 19 yo gf if you ask me. What about the 60 year old guy with a 45 year old?
    What am I missing?
    Im trying to answer my own question as I write...does, "affinity or some bond recognized by law, custom, or tradition" absolve any crime?
     
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    [QUOTE
    So, by law a couple with one of the members being more than 10 years older is subject to arrest. Is that how you people see this?
    This ought to make the 60 year old guy a little nervous with his 19 yo gf if you ask me. What about the 60 year old guy with a 45 year old?
    What am I missing?
    Im trying to answer my own question as I write...does, "affinity or some bond recognized by law, custom, or tradition" absolve any crime?[/QUOTE]
    1. "being with underaged persons" 45 is not underage.
    2. only the crime of adults from being with underaged persons - if one get too technical what of the trike driver driving the kids to school
     
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  4. Jack Peterson

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    We are Talking Minors of course here, A man of 60 marrying a 45 is not the issue, the Lady is way over the 25 year mark it describes in Places and of course no longer a Minor But yes the eldest a man should be with a 18/19 year old is 28/29 as per the Law, but again, if Proper permissions are given and accepted by law this is overcome. Marriage for Instance.

    It is an Ambiguous Law in many ways and really only raises it's head in cases like this but unfortunately ( well Fortunately really) It is one that we, as Responsible people, should think about properly when our natural Instincts start to get the better of us.:wink:

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    This strange law does make you think about things though, I think it would only come into play if you pissed someone off though unless you are being really blatant.
    The guy in question was posting pics of this underage girl on his fb page and being very public about it. He was just stupid.
    But as a lot of people have mentioned why would anyone want or need to be with an underage girl here when there are plenty of nice girls 20-30!

    There are also two laws here, foreigner laws and local laws.
     
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    I'm sure Dumaguete isn't far behind.

    You have to look at it from the context of the law.
    The law is to protect minors. an 18 year old can be with a 60 year old without any problems since the 18 year old is not a minor and you cannot commit child abuse against an adult. Though one should be very careful when dating teenagers (18 and 19 y/os)....it is very hard to tell the difference between a girl who is 17 years and 364 days old and an 18 year 1 day old. It can also be difficult to tell a difference between a 16 year old and a 19 year old, as everyone matures at slightly different rates and they have been known to lie about their age.

    The part of the law that I see could be abused is this part:

    If you have a gf and she brings her younger siblings/relatives to your house you are technically breaking the law and could be arrested (along with your gf). Really, being alone ANYWHERE with a minor is illegal....so if you are walking down an empty street and some minors come walking along you are breaking the law as well. This is the part that they are going to use on the guy in the OP if he did not have any sexual relations with the girl. The parents will be sent to prison on this part:

    I do believe that Carpenter was having some type of inappropriate relationship based off of his FB posts (calling her his "wife") so in this instance the law is probably not being abused. That's just my opinion though.
     
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    Ooops...I did miss the point my bad.
    The way it was written appeared to be beyond underage individuals but there it is in black and white.
    [DOUBLEPOST=1435847524,1435847440][/DOUBLEPOST]
    Hahahaha...now thats bad! :tongue:
     
    jimf, Jul 2, 2015
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    Merely being attracted to a minor doesn't fit the description of a pedophile. At 17 years old, the female body may or may not be fully developed (this varies) but certainly it's close. A pedophile is someone attracted to prepubescent children.

    As you said, the facts don't support this.
     
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    TheDude, Jul 3, 2015
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    Curious about the title of this thread. Where is there information about trafficking?
     
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