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    I HAVE AN IDEA!. Dumaguete has a shameful history of using slave labor in its hiring practices. In our small family unit we have had five nieces who have worked for no wages for six months under the guise of a training program. The latest business is Western Union. Most of us expats loth this practice and we know that the major food chains are guilty of this practice. Let’s find a way to sponsor an HONOR ROLL of Businesses who will not use this slave labor tactic. I think most of the major banks and the Catholic credit units would add their names. if we could get the Dumaguete Mayor to sponsor this program, we could start a movement, and I bet there is an ExPat who has a working relationship with the Mayor who would be willing to approach the Mayor. Let me know your thoughts
     
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    :eek: Well Mr Briggs Firstly can I say this not just a Dumaguete Problem the OJT things is National and has been going on for many many years. If the Proper National Authorities ignore it as they do, I think any local level will Also!
    I know that feelings run high on this and you in particular in that you bring it up every now and then. I get a gut feeling that you or any Expat that ventures on the thing you suggest will earn that "persona non grata' badge. for Incitement. For me I would be very careful how people tread on this as it is on an Open Forum and we know things get looked at. At First I was not sure if the Thread should run but then you are not normally a spam man so I will leave it to run until the owner has seen it, We as Foreigners have to be sure, we know, what ramifications and consequences can be the outcome of asking the Mayor or any Senior official to attempt this at this time.
    Lets face it most of the Major Businesses in this and other areas use this system ( who know's even he [the mayor] might) whether it is right or wrong, it is a system that is there.

    'Lets's all be careful out there.'

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    This isn't slave labor. They were free to choose and free to leave. It's still work experience. If the value of the work is such that people are willing to work there for no pay, then perhaps you should seek a new line of work. If you need money, then don't work for free.
     
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    I agree with TheDude. There are jobs out there that pay from the day you start. If the family member agrees to work for free then that is on them. They seem to all be experienced in getting no-pay jobs....you would think they would know what to look out for by now. Are you sure they just don't want to work for a living and be supported by you instead? I find it odd that so many in your adopted family are having such a hard time finding work that pays something.
     
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    This is a very common practice World-wide. In the US, it is called an "internship" and is usually a precondition for a professional job offer, whether it is in the private sector or the political arena---interns are endemic! Almost all law firms require "summer internships" before a job offer, as do most political operatives and large corporations. Some internships have rather vague or unusual job descriptions, however---google Clinton/Lewinski for an example.
     
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    I always thought, in the U.S., that an internship was a part of your in-school curriculum. As a law student, I received credit hours and a grade for my internships, but no pay. Same in medical and nursing school, you work in the profession as part of your educational training without pay. Have heard of OJT programs where you received a reduced or no salary though. Often coming with a promise of employment after successful completion. At least this has been my experience.
     
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    lol I like how you ended that.

    I always thought it was something the private sector did....perhaps working with schools to get the best candidates....but still in the private sector. I also considered internships as a type of contest between potential employees.

    Of course none of this makes any d*mn sense for stocking shelves at grocery stores or working the register at a Western Union. These jobs don't require any real thought. Just follow a set of instructions.

    I really don't think it makes any sense for these companies to spend time (and money) training an employee just to do it all over again in a couple months. Something just doesn't seem right with the story being given by the OP's family.
    If I hear the story once....ok, sh*t happens. I'll help out.
    Twice....hmm, I'm suspicious but I still help out. I'm watching you though.
    Thrice......I think someone is trying to pull one over on me and I start asking some questions.

    Is the person showing up to work on time...or at all. Are they are performing as they should be at work. Was the job even real? Does HR even have the person's name in their database as an employee or trainee? I would want to see this supposed work/training "contract". If any of these things couldn't be verified/produced then I would seriously question the person telling me the tale.

    Just my 2 cents.

    I thought the one prior to this one was Western Union?

    five times in one family! | Dumaguete Info
    That was 2 months ago.....so what is really going on here? Do they really have life long dreams of being a Western Union employee? Perhaps they should look elsewhere.
     
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    Does Insurance( Employer/ Employee or Public Liability ever come into these Situations I have to ask my self? and if it was a Son or Daughter of mine, I would be asking them! most definitely.:thumbsup:
    :jawdrop: Certainly makes one Wonder! :facepalm:

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    Someone asked, "How can there be five nieces in one family?", One must understand the life in the Philippine farm country. In one family that consists of 6 sisters and each have a family of 10 to 15 children, just do the math and maybe you will understand the living conditions in the farm country. There is no electric, the entire family sleeps on the floor in their day clothes . The main problem such family have is "what do we find to eat today." They get by since they farm out the oldest to work for family members , catholic friends and school teachers. The comment from the Pope was "You don't have to breed like rabbits." (Working for nothing for six months is not funny. One niece was placed in the labor pool after working for six months, and the labor pool had over 40 young girls waiting to be called. After 2 years, she was never called. It just makes me want to cry.
     
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    She waited around for 2 years or she was looking for other jobs during that time? I find it hard to believe that some sort of paying job could not be found within that time frame. If I were that desperate for a job and help feed my family I would be calling the HR department I was on the waiting list for once a week on the status until they hired me or until they asked me to stop calling, and at that point I would mark that employer off the list. But I wouldn't have been working for free in the first place....I'd tell a company to shove the job up their @ss and to call me when they are serious about hiring people.

    It sounds like they are applying for one job at a time and waiting for them to call back. They should be throwing their resume/CV around to every single business that is hiring....and even those that aren't....and even if they aren't qualified. With so many unemployed in the Philippines this is how you have to do it. My advice is to stop being a victim and crying about it and get out there and put some real effort into finding a job that pays from the start.

    I didn't see anyone ask that. Maybe I missed it. It's really irrelevant to the situation though. The families situation is also irrelevant. It sounds like te girl(s) worked for free in a training program that probably didn't promise to hire anyone. This is the third time, the lesson should have been learned on the first go around......don't work for free or agree to join a training program that doesn't promise to hire immediately after its completion.
     
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