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US navy loosens body fat guidelines

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  1. Miguel

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    US navy loosens body fat guidelines after losing too many talented sailors | US news | The Guardian

    We have heavy artillery. Now we also have a heavy navy :wink:
     
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    I remember they used to boot people who could pass the fitness test, at least in the Army they did. I don't really see the point. These people aren't greeters at a boutique or restaurant.
     
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    They did that when I was in the Army as well. I don't think it should matter what a person's weight is as long as they can pass a fitness test and their specific job doesn't have weight/height limits.
     
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    Wasn't just the Army, the Navy was doing that back in 1980's also. I knew one guy had a 19 1/2 inch neck but a 40 inch waist and he always passed the body fat measurements at the time (Just neck and waist measurements). What a joke it used to be. He couldn't pass the PT either (which was a joke in the Navy 1.5 mile run/walk in 18 minutes if memory serves) but as far as I know they didn't kick him out.
     
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    The magic pencil was at work sometimes. If I recall correctly, the army fatboy program they set you a target goal and you needed to keep losing weight until that goal was met. If you gained two months running you were out. Headquarters had some of the biggest butterballs you ever saw, of course they all had Profiles and didn't have to meet any fitness standards.
     
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    Yes I remember that well. We had a saying Rank Has it's Privileges (RHIP)
     
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    I was stationed with III Armored Corps (command of the largest base in the US :rolleyes:) my entire time in the Army.....and I gained 40+ pounds while I was in the Army and came out much less healthy than I was when I went in because of it. The NCOs weren't showing up for PT in the mornings.....not sure why anyone would think the junior enlisted would not follow suite.

    Once I my NCO said to me, "I heard you didn't show up for PT this morning.".....I told him, "that's funny, if you were there you wouldn't have had to have heard it from someone, you could have seen for yourself I didn't show up." Go ahead and write me a counseling statement or even try to give me an Article 15.....I'll drag all you c*nts down with me. Lead by example turd burglars. :wink:
     
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    Just wondering being I wasn't in the Army, are turd burglars (TB) an MOS one signs up for when he or she joins, or is that a specialty you achieve through rigorous training? Also, it sounds like if you are both a c*nt and a TB no PT required. I wonder if any of the McDonald's alleged warriors had that Specialist rank...
     
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    It's a special title usually earned by being stationed at a large command unit for way too long. It can normally only be obtained by senior NCOs, usually E-7s and E-8s that are a couple years from retirement and are resentful that they didn't make it to First Sergeant or Sergeant Major (these guys then usually go on to specialize in being "c*nts" once they find out that the unit is being deployed to Iraq and they will have to get out of their comfy seats in the HQ building for a change). Sometimes you can find an E-6 (and occasionally even an E-5) who fast-tracked the process and earned the title shortly after arriving at an HQ unit. In order to do this you need to have came from a line unit that just got back from deployment, claim to have been injured while deployed (even though you have no purple heart to show for it....which you claim is because the Army screwed you over because they don't give those out unless the injury broke skin and caused bleeding :rolleyes:), claim to have successfully went through sniper training (even though you barely qualified "Marksman" at the range with an M16) and you must be an overweight slob (which you claim is because of your injury). I had 2 of these in my "squad" in the 3 1/2 years I was there.

    However, you first need earn the "sh*t bird" title. It took me about 2 years in an HQ unit to earn my "sh*t bird" title. When they finally decided they would release me from the hell that is III Armored Corps (3 1/2 years after I got there) and send me to a line unit I was so good at being a "sh*t bird" that I knew that if expected to do my actual job at a line unit I would get torn up by real NCOs, have my rank stripped away and eventually kicked out of the Army.....so I told them there was no way in hell that I was going to re-enlist and ETS'd 2 months later so that I could continue my sh*t-birding specialty as a government contractor.....and make a whole lot more money doing it. :rolleyes:

    Note: It was so bad in my squad that at least once a week a Specialist (E-4) had to stand in front of the squad and report the squad's attendance/status to First Sergeant before PT........and our squad consisted of:
    x1 E-8
    x4 E-7
    x4 E-6
    x2 E-5
    x4 E-4
    x3 E-3 or below

    I can count on one hand how many times "all present and accounted for" was reported by our Master Sergeant for PT (and it wasn't a lie)........it was 5.....5 times that happened in 3 1/2 years! :banghead: f*ck III Armored Corps, f*ck them in the stupid, top heavy, *sses. Can't walk 2 steps without running running into a SGM or having to solute an officer. My record for solutes given going from the parking lot to the front door of the HQ building (about 100 meters)......14 salutes....and a few of those solutes covered more than one officer. :shifty:

    Of course not. If the Turd Burglars don't show up for PT the sh*t birds are just going to call "zonk" after doing some stretching (and after First Sergeant leaves, of course :wink:) and skip to training the troops......with first person shooters games on xbox, which was optional. Top finally caught on to this and forced everyone to give him their vehicle keys for the duration of PT. After that we had to come up with better ways of getting out of PT.....by making everyday a cardio day and running a couple blocks until out of Top's sight then sneaking back into the barracks to play xbox. He caught on to that as well and started to do Company cardio days where he led the entire Company on the runs (from behind so he could see that nobody quietly slipped out of formation). :hilarious:
     
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    Well Guys it must be so Different on the other side of the Pond, When I was an O/C and later a C/O my Daily Reports were Numerous on NON Reporting for PT without An M/O note, a Standing Order Disobeyance in the UK
     
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