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Emergency Dumaguete Airport/ Million peso tree/ overnight parking

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  1. robert k

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    If this is so, this isn't about the person with the tree but whoever refused to pay for damage to a roof. Sounds to me like they could have offered to pay for a much better roof that would be resistant to damage, the tree would be gone and all would be satisfied.

    But no, some entity is not going to get off it's hip pocket for chump change and in so doing they endanger the commerce of the area and negate people's investment. Frankly I have no sympathy. You knew where you were starting your business. At some point you must have read or heard stories that it isn't recommended that one start a business or all the crap that can happen to foreigners who are involved in business in the Philippines. To paraphrase Wesley Snipes from one of the Blade movies, always someone trying to ice skate uphill.

    I know it's going through someone's mind right now that the guy with the tree should have sold out and moved someplace else. The thing about good advise like that is if it's true in one direction, it is true in both directions. If something changes and you don't like where you are at, sell up and move. Trees in the Philippines are not the problem whether they are growing under powerlines or some distance from the end of an airport runway, the problem is how entities in the Philippines resolve matters. These things are only emergencies because the people who should be resolving things before they become emergencies aren't doing a good job of it. If you didn't realize you are in the Philippines, let me be the first to tell you.

    Is your emotional barometer up yet? Good! Now you can imagine how the Ramos family and the guy with the tree feel.

    I think it's a hoot when people would chastise someone for a lack of civic mindedness, when it's someone you don't know. Evidently, Alex knows the guy and I don't seem to be getting that vibe from him. Taking one for the team presupposes that there is a TEAM to begin with. Where was the team when the tree guy's roof was damaged? Did the TEAM take up a collection to get it fixed? Or is it really everyone for themselves? In the Philippines I preface every breath I take with @ your own risk. It keeps me reasonably satisfied with how things go because my expectations were low to begin with. In case nobody has mentioned it, you may not want to start a business or invest in land or other investment in the Philippines and if you do so, it is @ your own risk. I figured that out before my first trip to the Philippines. I can't believe this could be news but people act like they never heard it before.
     
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    And if we take it one step further, we have to ask: What came first? The airport or the roof?
     
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    I suppose we could also get into when the airport started serving jet aircraft also.
     
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    Not a pilot but a passenger. I flew an Airbus A320/319 to and from Duma-Manila and back in the last week. They are using the runway for A320/A319 now(Cebu Pacific anyways). When we landed we appeared to use a shortened runway and as soon as we touched down the pilot went full back throttle and full brakes to bring us to safe stop before running out of runway. We landed from the Sea side.
     
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    This seems strange to me. I'm thinking if they land from the sea side then the runway is the same length? I would guess that they prefer to land from the Land side if the wind blows the right way and if they can come in low and slow. I'm thinking it is better to run out of runway in the shallow sea than on the national highway, if they gotta run out of runway at all.
     
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    That makes sense... Remember where you are! Just kidding! We did land from seaside and only seemed to use about 1/2 of the runway the way he slammed down the brakes and back full throttle to stop and spin towards/taxi to the terminal and let us disembark.
     
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    Not Braking at all as you would know it, He/She will have used Reverse Thrust to Slow to about 80 Mph, He/she will also have had used his Air retarders on the wings to aid this, Heavy Braking on Landing is a sure way of Foul ups. That Aircraft is Fully maneuverable on the ground at 40/60mph
     
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    OK if you say so. As stated I am not a pilot, just a passenger who was thrown forward into my seat belt along with the rest of the passengers in what appeared to be a very short landing for whatever reason. I watched as we flew over a guesstimate of approx 1/2 of the runway looking out window before touching down. Then a very short maybe 10-15 second sudden slow down/stop before the turn towards the terminal.
     
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    Probably saving time, didn't want as far to taxi.
     
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    Sounds like a normal landing in Duma to me,it's never been any different the times I've flown in.
     
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