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    And those types of laws are exactly why I don't like being in the US. I'm an adult, I don't need the government telling me when and where I should be having a drink. If I am not hurting anything or anyone (minus perhaps myself/my liver) then what is wrong with that? There will always be trouble makers who abuse alcohol/drugs and actually do hurt others. I think money would be much better spent on catching the minority that are causing problems than punishing everyone else that is being responsible and doing nothing more than injecting money into the economy. Note: the money doesn't just stay with the bars, the bar owners take that money and spend it at other businesses, they also pay their employees who do the same thing.

    IMO: If the local economy can support a bar being open until 5am then that bar should be able to stay up and make money until then (and also provide the jobs needed to stay open). There are areas in the Philippines that will have the bars close around midnight.....but it's not because the government makes them do so. Even in Dumaguete many bars will close around 10-12 because of a lack of customers. I currently only know of 3-4 businesses in Dumaguete that have enough customers to justify staying open that late.....and many nights they close earlier than that because the customers aren't there. These businesses are also in more of a commercial area of town, so staying open late isn't bothering much of anyone. I think that city zoning would be a much better idea and something I have never really seen in the Philippines.

    Exactly. Instead of spending money on law enforcement to stop illegal activity they have decided to make something that is perfectly legal illegal. They aren't doing anything to address the cause of criminal activity (which is poverty in most situation....in other instances it would be due supply and demand IMO), they just made the list of things that are illegal larger.....which does nothing but create another thing people want that the black market can supply. Alcohol will still be available after any alcohol ban....people will just have to put themselves in more dangerous situation/locations to get it. If there is a demand there WILL be a supply....governments can either control it, regulate it and then tax it or they can let the criminal/black market elements make their money from it.

    I believe this is the case with both alcohol and drugs: if killing drug dealers worked so well and was so efficient....why is it that there are still drug dealers in Davao getting arrested/killed? I haven't seen any actual statistics on the drug use in Davao (or anywhere else in the country) but I suspect it hasn't really changed much.....other than probably having smarter drug dealers that are better at hiding their activities. This is what happened in the US. They have went from having literal mules crossing the border at the beginning of the "War on Drugs" to building advanced submarines that can haul massive amounts of product largely undetected across the Gulf of Mexico.....and all the while making the drugs even cheaper and more accessible than what they were before the war on drugs. Simply put, prohibition does not work. Not saying he is calling for a prohibition on alcohol, but if there is a demand for drinking after midnight-1am then someone is going to supply it.....and it'll probably be someone you don't want making a lot of money.
     
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    There are many public restrooms that are "one-holers" with a designated universal sign that says Male/Female - either one. It's a just single WIDE door restroom with a single toilet, wash basin and baby diaper changer wall table. It's good for handicapped, men, women, a person with a dirty diaper baby, and persons under gender transition. It's even good enough for me, when I've have to use one as it was right there in front of me when I needed to use a toilet and didn't think I could make it until I found the Multi-toilet Ladies room Gods knew how far away.

    I frankly don't see what all the fuss is about. The "one-holer", single toilet restrooms can work for anyone, right? I've seen these rest rooms all over the place in large public places (airports, buildings, colleges, and so on).

    Everyone needs their right to privacy and have access to public facilities. We are required to have an elevator in all public buildings under the ADA laws, sunken curbs so wheelchairs can cross in the cross walks and all the other stuff. So turn a standard utility mop-and-broom closet into a single bathroom and get on with it already.

    That should generate a few jobs around the country and give safe and equal toilet access to public buildings like those laws say we have to do since the 1960's, the 1970's and the 1990's, right? Just add gender transition into the mix of folks we accomodate and end the issue.

    Let's move onto other issues more pressing to my nation. I'm tired of all these little "side issues" diverting time and attention from the bigger issues needing to be fixed in this national pie.

    I'm glad I didn't get born with wrong/incomplete body parts and am happy I "match up". I would imagine it to be holy hell-on-earth to be born with the wrong or incomplete/mixed body parts - very confusing and socially ostrasizing.

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    I think the law is wrong. I'm certain the law is wrong is probably a better way to put it. The law creates a special group giving them more rights than anyone else. If gender blended people have a right to use any bathroom they feel like then everyone should be able to use any bathroom/locker room they feel like because it is not just bathrooms, every high school boy should be able to shower with the high school girls not just the gender blended. The law creates a special group with special rights. You don't need to be handicapped to use an elevator or a wheelchair ramp/handicapped stall in a bathroom. Stop special groups with special rights.
     
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    The present government make laws that apply to the whole country, yet Dumaguete tends to ignore those that would make the politicos unpopular with the voters. How often on this forum have we complained about traffic noise, fumes, LTO, bad driving etc,etc. Perhaps this country needs someone to shake up the status quo.
     
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    Exit plan? … I was thinking about whether I feel safer in the US or Philippines regarding pursue of happiness and the freedom that goes along with that pursuit. The US currently has a President that is acting more like a totalitarian President everyday (willing even tell me where I (or my children) can pee or who I have to pee next to) whereas the Philippines has elected what has been described a totalitarian President for the next 6 years, and currently anyone pees where ever they want, even in public without a stall to be concerned with. If the US can recover from the control issues that Obama presently is imposing on the US Citizens it may be safer with more fun and freedom in the US. However I really think it will take a long time for Philippines to start controlling it citizens, much longer than the promised six months, to the point of eliminating the "fun" if you are tolerant of the third world thinking. . The control laws are in place, but have never been enforced. The country is spread out, and the provinces are not held in a stranglehold by funds from Manila, like in the US, where the States are held in an economic stranglehold by Washington, DC. I guess it depends on which country can evolve the fastest. Whether the US can escape totalitarian type of leadership (or if it even wants too) faster than the Philippines is forced into a totalitarian type of leadership if that is really the direction it is going. Will the Philippines lose it "more Fun" before the US can regain its "fun" and freedoms.
     
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    I am lost on your logic today. I don't see having a handicap and trying to access the 2nd - 100th floor and having an elevator to accomodate them as giving them a "special right". We all use the elevator, and can do so and can have a wheelchair right next to us in the car. 60 years ago, many public buildings did not have an elevator - now we have them.

    So give the transgendered kids some privacy and give them a seperate shower stall. I'm sure they don't want to get their "junk" (or lack of "junk") stared at and made fun of by the "normal looking" kids. Often times, these "other" kids have deformed and incomplete/missing body parts. And you know how cruel and hurtful kids can be. So give them a seperate shower stall or excuse them from the gym classes or the mandatory shower grade.

    In alot of these cases, if health care wasn't so darned expensive, their parents would have been able to get their kid properly fixed and appropriately "gendered" by the time they are teenagers.

    Today, we need to find a way to accomodate these kids. If we can do it with elevators, I'm sure we can do it for these kids.

    Either that, or make health care affordable so the parents can get their kid properly repaired and gendered.

    I'm just glad that the Good Lord gave me a reasonably complete body with matching gender. I simply can't imagine what it must be like to have this abnormality - it's such a BIG social stigma.

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    Back to exit plans.

    Just to put this out there as a possible Plan B....

    Here are members of the ASEAN Nation Group:

    ASEAN Membership: 10 States — Brunei Darussalam, Cambodia, Indonesia, Laos, Malaysia, Myanmar, Philippines, Singapore, Thailand, and Vietnam. 1 Observer — Papua New Guinea.

    In articles I've read, there is serious talk of making a BA/BS or higher degree earned at an ASEAN public college/university universally acceptable (accreditated) among all ASEAN member nations. Currently, a degree earned and accepted by another ASEAN member is on a country-by-country basis.

    But talk is in the wind of making it easier to secure work permits among the members by standardizing this process.

    My two friends in Vietnam (caucasian Yanks) have lived there for 10 years and have recently reported they will no longer have to make VISA runs as often as they used to. VN is overhauling their VISA rules and legthening the maximum stays.

    Malaysia has a "Malayasia - My Second Home" (MM2H) VISA - good for 10 years! Two years ago, the Malaysia Ringgit was 3:1 on the US Dollar. Today, it's at 4:1 - making it MUCH easier (AND cheaper) to qualify.

    You can bring kids under age 21 into the MM2H program with you. They have good colleges/universities, speak English, have major int'l transport/rail systems, excellent health care, and you can even bring a maid with you, too under the MM2H.

    Yes. Under age 50 can qualify for MM2H. Work permit is possible, home ownership is possible, and a few other things, too.

    Pensioners over age 50 CAN be authorized an exception to the mandatory deposits providing they have a Government pension(s) totaling 10,000 ringgits or more per month.

    REMEMBER, the ringgit has devalued to the US Dollar from 3:1 to 4:1 over these past two years, making this MM2H VISA a much more affordable option to a retiree than ever before. And it's multple entry - good for 10 years.

    See below for official website for MM2H.

    Malaysia My Second Home Official Portal - MM2H Official Portal

    This is a very good Plan B exit option for those who have a married spouse and have kids.

    Just a WAG, but I suppose if you have an unmarried SO, you could bring over your SO as the "maid" or "butler".

    HOLY COW!

    V/R,
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    Oh boy, where do I start with the jokes for this one?

    And you know how cruel and hurtful kids can be.
    Kids?! Go to Octagon or HappyJacks (hi, Family_Guy) and show your junk there. These are grown adults and I'm sure they would put the kids to shame in being hurful.

    or lack of "junk"
    Their both junk. They both stink. They both look weird. It's okay, just call it all junk.

    if health care wasn't so darned expensive, their parents would have been able to get their kid properly fixed and appropriately "gendered"
    Maybe TMI, but I was circumcised when I was a baby. That's as much as I want chopped off before I'm of a fully mature age to make these decisions myself. Any little boy reading this is going to have nightmares. Mom/Dad takes you into the hospital for unknown reasons. You wake up with boobs and an innie. Mom made a judgement that you wanted to be a girl.

    I shouldn't have to be in a situation where someone can look at my "junk" anyways. Certainly not in school. The US has fitness classes in school. For all that pain of activity and showing off their junk, they're still fat asses.

    I don't even want to show off my junk when I'm getting laid. Turn the lights out, if my junk looks like a worm out of Star Wars (or a character out of Fraggle Rock) then at least I got some before she stopped returning my calls. As long as it's safe it's okay (does someone make condoms for deformed junk?)
     
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    Do you guys want to know why there are separate bathrooms? I'll tell you. It isn't pretty, but it's the truth. And sometimes the truth is ugly.

    Have you ever heard the grunting sounds a guy makes while squeezing out a ****?

    No women should have to listen to that. And no amount of "regendering" is going to fix it.
     
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    I would agree the "oneoholer" works. I would also agree that "Everyone needs their right to privacy and have access to public facilities." But your statements are contradictory in that most of the time the "oneoholer" (private stall) now is within a private (or semi-private) area reserved for one specific sex called the restroom area. It is considered safe area (just like on the college campuses now) , and presently their are laws to protect people/children while in that area (just like on the college campuses now). When a mother sends her daughter to a restroom, she assumes that she is safe. Now once the child goes to the semi-private area, out of the sight of the mother, that is no longer true. "oneoholer" work because the number of people in the "oneoholer" can be anticipated if the door can be observed from the outside public area. The community restroom do not provide this area of safety because there are areas which are not open to sight (maybe every restroom will have close circuit TV in the future) and security from the public area. I am not making this stuff up, It happened The girl was with her mother at the Jason’s Deli in the 1200-block of South Canal Street on May 7, - See more at: Man chokes 8 year-old girl in a deli bathroom, stopped before he could do the worst:
    This can be solved easily, it already has been in the Philipines in most restaurants. There is a basin area to wash up, and stalls (rooms with separation from floor to ceiling) with doors that can be seen from the outside so you know who is inside, and locks on the doors. Usually only a toilet, no urinal. There is no viewing over the top of separation wall, or under the bottom of a separation wall... floor to ceiling security There is no privacy area for make up to be put on and grooming is in the public viewed area also . The cost of converting every restroom in the US, or even in just the public schools, would probably be not much more than to build and give each transgender person their own private restroom to go with them everywhere. That that would be creating a special class of citizen who get their own private restroom. What about seniors who may need "senior diapers" and have trouble changing them. Should not they be giving young cute nurses (registered of coarse) to be with them in public when it is necessary to releave themselves in public type areas, and it is difficult and embarrassing if you diaper is not on right. Of coarse those nurses should be paid for by the taxpayers too?
    This is not about rights, or individuality, it is about SAFETY OF ALL and some economic common sense. Not just about the innocent kids, but what about the transgender that gets beat up in room that has no security or the seniors with no privacy and ability to change their own diapers.
    I also agree that this whole topic should have never been brought up as a world wide discussion, and it is just a diversion from the many important issues within the US and the world. It is a sh*tty discussion topic that will lead to potty talk type discussions. :o o:
     
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