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  1. DavyL200

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    Special Forces must leave Mindanao, saying their presence would only worsen the situation in the strife-torn region.

    “The US Special Forces, they have to go. They have to (leave) Mindanao. There are many (Americans) there,” the President said in a speech at the oath-taking ceremony of the latest batch of his appointees in Malacañang.
    “I just could not say it (at the Asean summit in Laos) because I don’t want a rift with America. The situation there (in Mindanao) will be more volatile. If they are seen there, they will really be killed,” he added.
    Read more: Duterte: American troops must leave Mindanao
     
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    WTF? and we are expected to believe this
     
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    This is disturbing. Does anyone else get the feeling this is similar to his warnings against drug dealers during his election campaign? Will these groups take this as a signal and step up efforts to kill Americans?

    And this follows the "son of a b*tch" comment to the American president.
     
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    Frankly, the SF have needed to leave for a long time because if they have not passed on the knowledge that the army needs by now, they are never going to learn. If the enemy will not surrender you must pursue them until they are destroyed. Dispersing them is worse than anything else and that is what is happening now.
     
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    I am starting to get a bad feeling about what is being said by the new administration when it comes to foreigners. I was stationed at Subic from 83 - 86 when the anti American riots took place after Marcos was ousted we were all targets. Living in Olongapo City at the time with no personal protection, hiding in my house until I could be smuggled onto the base is a scenario I do not want to relive. Pay close attention to your situation and the public rhetoric. Things can change very rapidly in this country.
     
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    Funny thing, you support Marcos you are the bad guy, you don't support Duterte who people are trying to say is the the new Marcos, you are the bad guy. Comical. The US never does seem to get it right.:2rofl:

    Duterte is saying the SF need to leave and I'm ok with that. I haven't heard anyone say that expats need to leave and presumably take their money with them. If it makes you feel better wear a British, Canadian, Australian, German, French and so on T-shirt while you are out and about. Don't worry about speaking English as it's long been the lingua franca in the melting pot.
     
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    I can't see anywhere stevehigg says he support Marcos, and pretty sure filippino see no difference, if you are american, german or french, all white western are same in their eyes. I have had a good life here, wish I don't need move, but make my resarch, where to move,
    if situation change in bad direction, wanna live in country with friendly people, like last 6 years here in Philippines
     
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    I will try to better explain myself. I am not a Marcos supporter, I just happened to be here during his ouster. Filipinos who had previously been friendly to foreigners suddenly turned angry and violent towards foreigners. Why? Partly because the USA flew the Marcos's out of the country and partly because of underlying issues with foreigners that had to be suppressed up to that point when the people and the country was set free to lash out. The people were encouraged to vent their anger by the new ruling class of politicians.
    Duterte has the ability to say very inflammatory things. He says very regularly that the Philippines is not the Imperialist Colony of the USA nor are they it's puppet. With 8 years total experience in living in the Philippines I have witnessed how quickly Pinoys can get violent.
    I truly hope that my worries are absolutely wrong and Foreigners are not demonized by the new government. I am just suggesting that from my experience it is a possibility and if it happens it will happen very quickly from crass remarks and small harassment to violence.
     
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    Perhaps a distraction to a build up of troops elsewhere in the country. Maybe he would like the US to have a stronger show of force closer to the South China Sea to deter China from doing their island grab. He did earlier question the US's willingness to help them defend their claimed islands in the SCS.

    From another article:
    I would say that the Philippine Army has more than enough bodies and firearms (or could come up with them very quickly/cheaply) to throw at the southern Muslim "problem". Their Air Force, Navy and Coast Guard are an absolute joke and building those branches up would take a whole lot of money, training and time. It would make sense to "reorient" what foreign military assistance they get from the US from ground troop assistance to naval and air support.

    His words, however, are an absolute sh*t way for a politician to speak. If you read the comments in these articles you'll see that more than half of the respondents have very negative/resentful views of foreigners and many seem to be just waiting for the green light to have a go at us...and it reads as if many of them have taken his comments as the turn left lane light turning yellow and they're ready to stomp on the gas. Who do you think the poor are going to blame when they finally realize that the drugs dealers weren't the cause of their poverty and it has only been their own people killed in that fight? I highly doubt they are going to have a serious look at their own life choices and I'm absolutely positive the Filipino elite are going to be real quick to point the finger at someone else when eyes start drifting in their direction. If the problem ain't drug dealers, it ain't communists, it ain't Muslims, it ain't the indigenous people, it ain't the rich.....who does that leave? The ones that don't look like them and the ones do look like them but aren't from their country, I can only guess which one they will go after next. Hint:
    Skin color is already on their mind...if you are black or white (I doubt any kidnappers/terrorists are going to stop and ask you for your passport before they kill you) you shouldn't be feeling very welcome in Mindanao these days. Being a nationality other than American didn't stop them from recently sawing the heads off of a few hostages.
     
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    When Duterte made his SONA he talked about starting peace talks with the MNLF and he said the MNLF wanted the U.S. out of Mindanao before they would sit down. It may have been out of the Philippines but I think it was only Mindanao.
    Duterte has never been clear who are the foreigners, it could be the Chinese or it could be us?
     
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