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Dutch national gunned down in Misamis Oriental

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  1. TheDude

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    Cardboard sign read drug addict and pedophile. He was there to visit a 17 year old girl.

    From the article, he had received death threats. If that's not enough to drive you to get the **** out of Dodge, then good luck.

    Dutch national gunned down in Misamis Oriental
     
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    Wow, what a nice guy! He even had videotaped himself having sex with underage girls and carried it on his cellphone? I think you are right that if you are a pedophile it would be wise to GTFO. It appears that it wasn't just someone accusing him, there were the videos on his cellphone?
     
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    If he was a pedophile (which we don't really know for sure) death would be the wrong sentence. I'd much rather be dead then spend the rest of my life in a filipino prison.

    Note: being with a 17 year old does not make him a pedophile. Pedophiles are attracted to prepubescent children. Not defending his alleged actions but there is a very big difference.
     
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    From another article I read, he was only in the area for a week, and had been "courting" a couple of underage young females he had meet on line. One of the young females he was courting was the daughter of the place he was staying. He was trying to get them to marry him. The families had objected. He may have not have understood the culture well enough to navigate life in the Philippines. Pissing off families by trying to make unwanted advances on their daughters (I believe that is reserved for family members only :o o: ), and being threatened because people thought you were dealing in drugs is not a good approach to living in the Philippines successfully. I think his lifespan here proves my point unfortunately.
    IMHO, the Philippines has been the land of lawlessness for a long time and still is. However the tables has been turned and no longer favor the criminal activity committed by suspects. The vigilantes seem to have the upper hand now. Anyone coming here looking for activities as this man did, is probably looking for more trouble than they can handle. Even a person coming with intended activities of drugs and sex is too naive to handle the repercussions here of stepping on the wrong person's toes.
    Again in IMHO, I do not think people change their approaches to life's game upon arriving the Philippines, they just lack understanding how the game is played here...
     
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    Event: Foreigner debates bullet over definition of pedophile.

    Result: Bullet clearly wins the debate.
     
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    What ever, Underage is underage. Some will never learn, although this one did, not that he will remember.
    Hope some lessons are learned here. :wink:
     
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    I'm going to look up the law because I know he was breaking one or more. It's not legal for a 59 year old to have sex with a 17 year old. Fairly certain it isn't legal to be alone in a boarding house or resort with a minor. There are a couple links to Chanrobles from the linked page.
    Age of Consent in the Philippines
     
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    :hmmm:Hmmmmmm well age of consent and the age of a minor are two different things here, Then we have that 10 year gap thing I am, pretty sure the Law takes a dim view of a 50 + and a 17 year old when they are caught out. As foreigners, we should know that the book will be thrown at us.
     
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    Of course he was breaking the law if he was sleeping with underage girls and would have deserved to be punished. I don't think he should have taken a bullet for it though and he most certainly should have had a trial...there are worse things to do to a person than kill them. But let's not forget that this guy was not put on trial, while it does seem that this guy was guilty of "something" (the vast majority of people don't catch a bullet in this country for no reason), it wouldn't be the first time evidence has been planted on a person or dead body. He could have very well lost his life for a much smaller offense, or even just a disagreement with a connected local, that very few of us think would deserve a bullet.

    It does seem that he wasn't all that bright if he did go to the police and tell them he was getting death threats. He was given fair warning that, whatever he had done, was pissing someone off and it was time for him to get out of town. Only an idiot would continue to do what he was doing after getting death threats in this country.

    Well not exactly. A 26 year old can legally screw a 17 year old. If you are less than 10 years older than a minor (so long as that minor is not defined as a child by Philippines law, which I believe is 14) it is legal. Now being legal and a smart thing to do are two very different things...a 26 year old might be able to legally screw a 17 year old, that doesn't mean he might not catch a bullet for it if the family objects.

    Note: I'm not defending or condoning the screwing of underage teenagers or the 10 year age difference that Philippines law permits. I personally don't think, especially at that age, a 10 year age gap is appropriate nor should it be legal, I think a 5 year age gap would be a bit more fitting...but I don't get to write the laws or vote for those that do here. Their country, their laws.

    I probably wouldn't debate the definition of a pedophile with a guy holding a gun - I actually wouldn't debate much of anything with a guy holding a gun - but having gun doesn't mean you are always right or win a debate. :wink:

    I can clearly understand why a person might want to kill someone that screwed their underage daughter. Parents want to protect their children. I don't think it justifies murder though.
     
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    The article says this guy had video on his phone of him having sex with the minors. Whether he captured the video with his phone or later loaded it on his phone, that doesn't look good and might be considered trafficking. The guy might have done anything with the video, he might have live streamed it. He might have been doing what he did for profit, making porn. Whatever he was doing, I can't raise much sympathy for him. If some father capped him, I'm sure many would sympathize with the father.


    " Investigators said they found sex videos of Van Der Ploeg with several minors on his mobile phone."
     
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