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  1. Brian Oinks

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    Not so interesting... Complaining and talking ill about the locals is not on when done in public in my opinion, and boasting does not make one better than the locals either, the last time I was in McDo's opposite the Lee Plaza there was a group of 4 guys probably in their mid to late 60's on top note talking S*** loudly laughing at their own comments, I received a few glances from some of the locals and returned a disapproving look in the direction of the loud group shaking my head, for me personally; I found it embarrassing to have even been within ear shot of the group...
     
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    I disagree. I think people should be free to speak their mind. The guy I was referring to that was declared persona non grata made two videos; one was called "10 things I love about Cebu" and the other "10 things I hate about Cebu". He provided his opinions of the good and bad in a respectful manner....and the good and bad opinions were completely valid points. The onion skinned locals only watched the video pointing out the short-comings of the city and threw a hissy-fit about it.

    I won't deny that there is a right and wrong way to go about pointing out the negatives. But even if done wrong they should not be forced to leave the city.
     
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    That looks a bit different. He called positive and negative points which seems to be valid ones. But he is not just only ranting about his location. In my posting I meant the people who are just ranting about their location. These should move to a different location.
     
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    They probably "should" but they shouldn't be forced to. Also, some people aren't happy unless they are miserable....so it wouldn't matter where that type of person was living.
     
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    And some people would agree with the rant but they fear to lose the face if they agree with the rant. Therefore they fight versus the ranters.
     
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    Which I believe is just as wrong/immature as the rant itself. Both parties in such a situation are being just as bullheaded as the other.
     
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    But exactly that is happening actually in the Turkey in a much worse case.

    Yeah that is immature but happens too much.

    In Germany many people rant about the established politic parties not being able to handle the issues the country have. But at the elections they still choose them.
     
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    The issue here seems to be about 'freedom of speech'. No-one should disagree about that fundamental human right and so many have lost their lives in defence of it. But, as you say, it is how they express it ... and this can be content, tone, manner, etc. I am not sure if this is a valid comparison, but we could think how we would react to someone in our own home giving opinions .... certain opinions would be welcomed and others may range from disliked to making us very angry. So at what point do we say "GET OUT you b*****d"?
     
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    I personally don't buy into that country=house analogy. Nobody invited me to this country, I am not a guest to any Filipino.

    But let's say I did go by those analogies: if I say something that offends one Filipino but another Filipino couldn't care less or even agreed with me (which is almost certain to happen no matter what came out of my mouth) then I would just choose to be the guest of the Filipino that agreed with me. It's not like I'm holding a gun to a Filipino's and forcing them to listen to me. None of them are offering me a place to stay for free nor are they being forced to live with me under a roof that I pay rent for. Being called a guest of Filipinos is a joke....am I a guest of the meth-head down in the shanty town and the guest of the president at the same time? I believe there are going to be some very different rules for how a guest should conduct themselves in just those two Filipino's homes....now let's try to figure out what the rules are for the other 99,999,998 Filipinos that fall between those two extreme examples. If you say Duterte is awesome you just offended a large portion of your hosts, if you say he sucks you just offended another large portion of your hosts.

    If someone wants to compare the country to a house then ok, I can argue against that as well: The house rules are published for everyone to see. This would be the Constitution and other laws put in place by the owners of the house that everyone must obey. The house rules clearly state that I have freedom of speech. If I am following the laws and not infringing on anyone else's rights then some arbitrary rules randomly made up by Filipinos mean absolutely nothing. You don't have a right to not be offended. I think the alt-right has recently made a word popular for the type of people who think they should never be offended or have their opinions contested....they call them snowflakes.

    The Philippines is a democracy, I follow the (house) rules their representatives have created. If I'm doing something they don't like that is legal (like exercising my freedom of speech) they should democracy themselves up some new house rules and make it illegal. It isn't on me to go to every individual Filipino and make sure I'm following their own personal house rules and morals...which would be absolutely impossible to do. (Please a Christian, p*ss off a Muslim)

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