Rude foreigners to be refused entry to the ph

LENNY · 7 feb 2018

Wrye83 zei: ↑

....isn't all that common.

In my experience it is about 50/50 for being asked at the airport before I depart. I have never been asked by immigration at my starting point if I have an onward ticket from the Philippines, or any other country I was going to.

About 1 in 4 times I am asked by Philippines immigration if I have an onward ticket....and they usually don't even ask to see it after I, politely, say I do.

I bet that would cause some issues. Never traveled to a country where my LOA or CAC needed to be shown to immigration. I have always had work visas or completely bypassed the country's immigration all together.
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It's not immigration who asks it is the airlines !!! And they do ask !!!

Plainspoken · 7 feb 2018

Notmyrealname zei: ↑

It almost certainly takes less energy to be polite, thus generates less stress. So using more energy than is required (by being offensive) results in being refused entry. A pity that the human brain is so inefficient at times.
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I only smile because I'm too lazy to frown. It actually varies a little depending on the expression, but it can take as many as 26 muscles to smile and as many as 60 to frown. Therefore, yes it does take less energy to be polite.

Rye83 · 7 feb 2018

LENNY zei: ↑

It's not immigration who asks it is the airlines !!! And they do ask !!!
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I never said airlines don't ask, I said they don't always ask. As for immigration asking, there is a reason I put that in my comment.

And "!!!"? Calm down. Not sure why you are so upset. Check this chart for future exclamation mark usage:

Plainspoken zei: ↑

I only smile because I'm too lazy to frown. It actually varies a little depending on the expression, but it can take as many as 26 muscles to smile and as many as 60 to frown. Therefore, yes it does take less energy to be polite.
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"Actually, there isn't any proof behind this old saying. Scientists have studied the muscles needed for both facial expressions, and to do a small smile generally uses 10 muscles; a small frown uses 6. On average, a smile uses 12 and a frown 11. However, since humans tend to smile a lot, these muscles are stronger."
www.sciencemadesimple.co.uk/curriculum-blogs/biology-blogs/muscles

....unless you are like this guy:

You can tell he really struggles to smile in any picture of him doing it. It almost looks painful for him to smile.

Dave_Hounddriver · 7 feb 2018

Plainspoken zei: ↑

but it can take as many as 26 muscles to smile and as many as 60 to frown.
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So if you had to lift a car out of a ditch, would it be easier with 26 "musclemen" or with 60 "musclemen". When you have the answer to that you will know why it is easier to frown than smile.

jim787 · 7 feb 2018

If your onward or return ticket is with the same airline, the agent does not need to ask. She sees it on her computer.

Show Pony · 7 feb 2018

Dave_Hounddriver zei: ↑

So if you had to lift a car out of a ditch, would it be easier with 26 "musclemen" or with 60 "musclemen". When you have the answer to that you will know why it is easier to frown than smile.
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I think a pretty girl with a smile could get her car out of the ditch much easier than you or I, smiling or not.

hawk263 · 7 feb 2018

DavyL200 zei: ↑

Visiting foreigners who are rude and disrespectful towards immigration officers will be barred from entering the country, Bureau of Immigration (BI) Commissioner Jaime Morente warned on Tuesday.

The remark was made after the BI ports operations division reported that about 74 foreigners were turned away at the country’s ports in 2017 for being “disrespectful” to immigration officers.

BI: Foreigners ‘rude’ to immigration officers barred from entering PH
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I remember, back in the 80's, flying into Lagos, Nigeria (for the 3rd time , so I had some idea what to expect) -
IO " You have no visa sir!"
Self "Yes I have a visa, it was issued in London.
IO "I cannot see your visa sir"
Self (sliding $10 note over the counter) "Can you check again, I know there is a visa"
IO "Ah yes sir, now I see your visa"

They have cleaned it up a lot since then.

Notmyrealname · 7 feb 2018

Plainspoken zei: ↑

I only smile because I'm too lazy to frown. It actually varies a little depending on the expression, but it can take as many as 26 muscles to smile and as many as 60 to frown. Therefore, yes it does take less energy to be polite.
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I was more thinking of hormones released during anger and the consequent stress they impose upon the body's organs and tissues. Also, mental activity can be sometimes as tiring as physical exertion - I know this really needs to be defined in empirical terms to be valid, but I am sure we have all had some experience of it.

MikeP64 · 8 feb 2018

I'm 3 for 3 getting asked by airlines for a return ticket when departing USA. Perhaps it's due to my condition, resting b!!!!h face. Most likely due to to multiple air lines. I've never answered a single question from Philippine customs. I hold a finger to my ear, strain to smile then point my lips at asawa.

tuba-coma · 8 feb 2018

strict policy :-)
http://www.immigration.gov.ph/images/News/2018_Feb/2018Feb06_BI_TurnsBack74.pdf

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