Corona Virus - as of 4 feb

Okay, I will concede that "almost certain" was not the best choice of words. Here are three facts that are known for certain:

1) The initial at least 14 cases (some have said it was 24 cases) that were seen did not have any contact with the fish market. The virus did NOT originate there, it was brought into there and that market then became a hub for spreading the infection.
2) The 2019-nCov virus is a bat corona virus that has a genetic anomaly that experts have said is not the result of mutation (ie, it is a genetically modified virus).
3) The Wuhan Virus Laboratory was working for the past year on genetic modifications to the bat corona virus.

From that you can draw your own conclusions. Probably a better choice of words would have been to say that my working hypothesis is that the highest probability out of all the potential explanations is that the virus originated from within that lab.

 

Well, in this case I’m afraid google may not be very reliable. There are many sources to read and in short, “google” may likely show the virus was genetically engineered as Sedona’s excellent sources indicate, along with scientific explanation and citation. I am not saying this was bio weapon development; if true my hunch is that us would have been vaccine research for other viral diseases like HIV. Not to say that some researcher didn’t release a specimen at the Wuhan meat market for test purposes.


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Some sites like Forbes and MedScape say that the virus is NOT genetically modified, but only a mutation.
Sedona, please provide your sources for "...has a genetic anomaly that experts have said is not the result of mutation (ie, it is a genetically modified virus)" ???

I don't trust the Chinese government media either, but I'm not yet certain the lab is the source. I'm not yet ready to jump to the "chinese biowarfare is the cause."

 

I have been watching so many sources it is hard to keep track of them, I will try to find it. What I recall is that the DNA anomaly is that there is a genetic sequence inserted into the corona DNA that is an exact duplicate of a gene segment in the HIV virus, and this exact duplication of an existing HIV gene would not have happened through a mutation. Watch this:

 

The sources she provided does point to a high likelihood that it was not natural mutation. Not being an expert, if appears that natural mutations of gently sequences involve going through several incremental steps. In the case of this bat virus, it looks like the “before” sequence and the v-CoV sequence skipped some of the incremental changes to arrive at a new virus. Skipping if the naturally evolving sequence is though by some to be caused by researcher intervention. I don’t think the Chinese were working on bio warfare. More likely, they were working on vaccine development for similar virus like HIV, SARS, MERS. The bio war hypothesis is just an unsupported conspiracy theory.


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I have read that the Wuhan Virus Laboratory is 21 km (or miles, as sources differ) from the food market - so if the first cases were not in people from the food market but from the lab (an escaped virus) then why, in a very big city, did the virus infection rate not get big in a population closer to the lab? If a lab worker was infected by the virus, or carried it out on the body or some object (overcoming the ring of protection that would be present there), then that is only one person - so did that one worker get infected and infect others locally (the original 14 cases cited), perhaps family members? If so, then why did the infection jump so far and only to the market (if it did) and not closer to the lab or to multiple sites ? If it did somehow get only (or mainly) into the market, then there is a possibility that the infection was passed on to a different species within the market and then passed back out in a more virulent form (perhaps having recombined with that other animal's coronavirus) - so have any differences been noted between the original infections and those centered on the market? Even more so, if done, are there any differences in gene sequence or antibodies?

 

It is very interesting to speculate on the origin of the virus, but it is like speculating on the direction a bullet came from - if it hits you in a vital region then the origin matters zero.

The biggest danger to individuals is complacency, especially when some in official positions are interested in withholding truths. Even if at this stage people are thinking 'it won't get me' then you may be a carrier who takes the virus to your loved ones. No one knows, with even a small % of certainty, where the infected individuals who have entered the country have traveled to or have who they have been in contact with. No one knows what the position is with their contacts - are they asymptomatic carriers, asymptomatic non-carriers, symptomatic and walking around, symptomatic and in quarantine.

So among the discussions, no one should trust anything said and everyone should see themselves as a potential target.

Perhaps in a month's time this will seem OTT - but perhaps not.

 

UPDATE: The lab that reported that the gene anomaly in the 2019-nCov was a copy of an HIV gene is a lab located in India. That lab has just announced that they are withdrawing their paper pending further analysis. They admit they released their results too soon, and they are working to confirm, and they want to see additional confirmation from an independent lab before they will release an updated version of the original publication.

To be clear, I'm not trying to push any narrative, I am just trying to share with you the information that I have found.

NotMyRealName: Those are all great questions. If the virus originated with a worker from the lab, they may not necessarily have lived close to the lab, and they could have started a chain of infections that could all been in various random locations.

 

Yes, such confusion is even predictable but thank you for letting us know that the issue of the anamoly from the India lab even exists.


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Following you guys here now, is like watching FOX news