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Discussion in 'COVID-19' started by Dutchie, Apr 17, 2020.

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  1. djfinn6230

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    I think you are using the wiki definition. Actually it is common and quite valid for people to express opinions on topics outside their specific scope of expertise. A better definition is:

    Ultracrepidarian. Definition: one who is presumptuous and offers advice or opinions beyond one's sphere of knowledge.

    So the “opinion” of the ultracrepidarian himself, but certainly not his specific knowledge of the topic at hand, is “presumptuous” because it assumes he is knowledgeable of subject matter but it (opinion) has no basis in fact at all. Nobody here is presumptuously offering opinions merely based on subject matter which they actually know nothing, it is only based it on things they do know. Everyone’s own factual information is by definition included in one’s sphere of knowledge. In this thread it appears that the people are basing opinions on a not-unreasonable amount of knowledge and certainly not basing it on the completely unknown as the cobbler did from the origination of the term. One can base his opinion that the research is evil simply because it possible for labs to develop bio weapons and human nature makes that inevitable. I can disagree but that does not make him wrong, or right. I will say that my own opinion is based upon my sphere of knowledge and even partly based upon my faith in mankind if I wish. I believe have more information to base my opinion on (lol) but neither side is making up the facts, just interpreting the facts differently and that is not unreasonable.

    Now go back to your dictionary and leave me alone :laughter:


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    Did I accuse American scientists creating a Corona bioweapon? No. I do not put up conspiracy theories because in my opinion reality is cruel enough. If the American government blames the Chinese that the virus escaped from their laboratory, they should tell the public also that they financed this lab partially and their scientists worked together with the Chinese to find out how a virus they found in a bat works in a human body. this is a surprising fact you can read about here, and the Natureresearch mag is not well known for spreading out conspiracy theories. https://www.nature.com/articles/nm.3985 So, if the virus "escaped" from that lab, who can you blame?
    Btw, US military takes research on bioweapons, in 1987 they spend 73,2 million $ on that. Btw the United States Public Health Service (PHS) is led by Alex Azar, the former president of Eli Lilly Pharma. For what do I need conspiracy theories?
     
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    I am glad you have access to US military research classified information on bio weapons. Forgive me if I have my doubts about that, please. Scientific funding is in the public domain is public info. If there are so-called “black” projects doing this, then neither you nor I have any information on it. That would truly be “untracrepidacious”
    (or whatever word it was that the other poster accused us of lol). Chill. It’s just a forum.


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    whoever you ment, your comment is useless and a bit offending. trying to degrade people debating about an extraordinary situation we all have to suffer from doesn't show real wisdom. it is just sharing information to create a better understanding, what's wrong with that? noone here pretends to be a rocket scientist.
     
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    It is getting now a bit off the topic and no, I have no classified inside information, but you might have heard about Fort Detrick, it is still there in 2019 https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...ak-ebola-anthrax-smallpox-ricin-a9042641.html
    and sure I believe they take only defense research, same like I believe about Saddams chemical weapon stuck.
    funny enough, US governments tested their bioweapon creations on their own population https://theconversation.com/the-us-...he-public-were-infected-ticks-used-too-120638
    but officially bioweapon development in US ended 1969 under president Nixon, we all remember him as one of the good guys :-)
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_biological_weapons_program
    unfortunately not everybody trusts the end - ever heard about Insect Allies? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_biological_weapons_program
    at least, it's all a question about information - and interpretation, for sure. think independent, and never forget to chill, even sometimes the global situation seems horrible. And No to QAnon.
     
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    Must be an American thing
     
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    End of round one.
     
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    Can you clarify what you meant?
    It sounds like you might be questioning the credinility of The Conversation publication or maybe the definition of biological weapon.

    Here is what Wikipedia has to say about their credibility:
    FactCheck[edit]
    In 2016, The Conversation's FactCheck unit became the first fact-checking team in Australia and one of only two worldwide accredited by the International Fact-Checking Network, which is an alliance of fact-checkers hosted at the Poynter Institute in the U.S.[30] The only other fact-checking team accredited under this process is The Washington Post's Fact Checker. The assessment criteria require non-partisanship, fairness, transparency of funding, sources and methods, and a commitment to open and honest corrections.[31]
    or
    Are thinking the test conducted by the US goverment were not biological wepons. I could agree that the biological materials were not weapons however it sounds to me that the purposes were to test how biological agent could be disperced.

    It seems that the story was based on information from the US Goverment. If that is the case then yes the credibility of the report is questionable.
     
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