Covid-19 Opinion

Points well taken Jens. Maybe we can meet at the cop station and have a cup of coffee )


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So you think they don't even respect their main "voluntary contributors" (apparently not Chinese - 1st link p.251)
And for info I don't like the WHO nor Chinese governement

https://phmovement.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/D1.pdf
https://www.kff.org/global-health-p...government-and-the-world-health-organization/

 

At the beginning of the outbreak, USA specialist Dr. Fauci, part of President Trump’s team, showed us two curves, one with a high peak where deaths rise quickly but the total time of the outbreak is shorter, and one with a flattened curve where the peak is lower but the total time of the outbreak is much longer. Fauci correctly assumed that in the case of the USA, considering such data as the population size and density of large cities like New York and the number of hospital beds and ventilators available, we really had no choice but to choose the flattened curve route that requires strict lockdowns. This was to prevent a total breakdown of the (rather poor) US health care system that has no Universal health coverage. He didn’t elaborate much on other characteristics of the flattened curve such as the fact that total deaths of the flattened curve (with lockdowns) are not guaranteed to be fewer than those from the fast peak (with no lockdowns). The key was the size of the peaks and whether the medical facilities in a country would become overwhelmed. Countries like Sweden with amazing health facilities and where everyone is insured and with enough facilities to cover a greater share if their population, had to evaluate their response based on their own population size and availability of medical facilities; one other factor that would need to be considered is that the fast peak, if a country could handle it (which the US definitely could not but maybe Sweden could), had the big advantage of creating herd immunity which the flattened curve response does not, with the people locked inside and not exposed to the virus. Total deaths must be considered the summation of those from the initial and future outbreaks and in that vein it is important to realize that herd immunity will prevent reoccurrences of new outbreaks while the flattened curve response does not. So, there are very powerful and science-based incentives for certain countries to choose the peaked curve if they so desire, given that total death numbers are similar either way (in theory). Every country’s’ situation is different and I cannot criticize any of them for their responses.


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Your ad-hominem attack about me condoning dying is despicable and betrays your ignorance and lack of understanding that scientific thought seeks truth, not over-emotional fear that only leads to misery. With enough people like you making decisions there would be an emotional time bomb that the world doesn’t need right now; tell the Swedes that they screwed up because your more enlightened thought process is superior to that of their experts. Your saying such a thing about me in a public forum is not acceptable to me and I will have no dealings with you in the future. There are valid scientific responses that all counties must consider, responses unrelated your fake morality. Your emotional preconceived notions make it impossible very well for you to grasp what is real.

And learn reading comprehension, if you can.


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Well this is exactly what stinks about their stance on investigation into the source of the outbreak, the ruthless insistence on using the CCP’s name for the virus, the resistance to speaking to name of Taiwan, refusal to even discuss Taiwanese participation and the ridiculous claims that the Taiwanese government had used racial slurs to describe Tedros. China only put in $20m vs. $400m from the US, yet it’s following the CCP’s lead in all matters. I personally believe Tedros has a fat and still-growing account in Beijing, and that it was CCP manipulation that got him his seat.

 

I am very pleased the attention and concerns the over-60 are getting about the risk we would face if we dare leave the house. Given this caring for us, I expect we will be the first to get tested and the first to receive the vaccine. I feel the love.

 

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