I find it differcult too, but for a different reason, especially when it's a Mother of 3 kids fighting for her life! I understand that an elderly person may choose to opt out of hospital care, if they feel it's time to pass on, but most people would wish to fight with all that's available to them. Many weren't given that choice for a number of reasons.
I wouldn't bet on it - most senior government posts seem to be filled by high ranking ex-military or ex-police and I don't think the President would just back down that easily. If that type of disobedience popped up around the country there would be martial law. And if these over 59's were aliens, well .............
It is quite possible for a careless family member to introduce the virus into the family home and I would not blame the family members for that. Sure, they should take care to ensure the person coming in showers and changes clothes but if they don't have that type of control then I don't think we can blame them too much for not "preventing harm". In that respect I think @john boy had a very valid point.
we are still under gcq, so only one family member is allowed to go out and supposed to take care when doing so. It is up to the family whatever deviation from that sensible rule they tolerate. however i admitted it is not as easy as with hiv, but, again, it was not me who chose that (imho bad) example.
If we stayed with the original definition of quarantine, ie keep only the known-sick inside, it could be argued that we would have the same results as we have now where we keep the known-sick PLUS everybody else inside. Think about it. Remember, with the other flu’s, there were asymptomatic carriers as well who of course did not stay home. This time it is supposed to be different; don’t ask me why. In 1957 I remember going to church and seeing an elderly nun drop over from the Asian flu. But she didn’t die. But some people died. Childhood classmates and a few middle aged teachers got sick. No kids died but a few adults must have passed. Then it was over as quickly as it started. I do not know what is different with COVID19 today. Asian flu 1957 and Hong Kong flu 1968 were both pandemics. In all cases only the known-sick were kept home. Same with epidemics thereafter. Are we that much smarter today? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Don't get me wrong, by all means I'm not advocating keeping everybody at home, especially not in the current situation here (no proven cases, not even suspected cases as far as I know). General quarantine was justified in the beginning when nobody knew how fast it would spread and where it already was, but after several weeks with closed borders I think it's time to accept that there's no covid19 going around in Negros Oriental because if it would, at least some people would show up with symptoms. I am actually afraid officials on all levels here are simply reluctant to give up their new powers of telling people when and where they can go, and when they should stay at home.
It might also be the case that the only known mitigation model that countries knew about and what seemed to work was the Chinese lockdown in Wuhan. However, the Chinese had a unique built-in authoritarian power to crack down on the public and they wanted that virus gone, and fast, perhaps for other reasons beyond just being humanitarian. I believe only Sweden and Taiwan did not follow that model. Sweden had more deaths than Germany but approximately the same per-capita rate as U.K., Belgium etc. who did end up using (a slightly less authoritarian version of) the Wuhan model. Taiwan...no lockdowns...extremely successful and the world has yet to understand why. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
It seems that people and especially groups of people do not learn well by example. Their ignorance is such that they only learn through failure. Taiwan learned from their failure: "Due to the hard lessons that Taiwan learned during the SARS epidemic in 2003," https://www.dw.com/en/taiwan-coronavirus/a-52724523 South Korea learned from their failure: "The truth is that the Korean government and its citizens did something simple, admirable, and all too rare: They suffered from history, and they learned from it." "The government made several damaging mistakes before arresting the spread of MERS. In the early days of the epidemic (2015), testing kits were unavailable, as was information about the viral spread" https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/me...ovid-19-exceptionalism/ar-BB13GoFt?li=BBnbfcL In regards to your comment: "Taiwan...no lockdowns...extremely successful and the world has yet to understand why." We can only assume that people are too stupid to search the Internet, read and learn from other peoples mistakes.
