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    stS2hrup1onsoredh ·
    BREAKING: Negros Oriental has 47 new COVID-19 infections, provincial IATF ground commander Dr. Liland Estacion announced in her first virtual briefing for 2021 this morning, Jan. 5.
    Among the new infections are government employees from Sibulan and Dumaguete City, as well as children aged three to five years old, a three-month-old baby, and a 91-year-old male.
    Dumaguete City alone has 32 new COVID cases, bringing the total number of active cases in the city to 104.
    New cases were also recorded in Sibulan (5), Siaton (2), San Jose, Guihulngan City, Tanjay City, Bacong, and Zamboanguita.
    Estacion also reported 19 new recoveries: eight from Dumaguete City, seven from Sibulan, and one each from Tanjay City, Pamplona, Bayawan City, and Valencia.
    The total number of cases in Negros Oriental is now at 984, with 174 active cases, 782 recoveries, and 28 deaths. #NewsBite | via Raffy Cabristante, 106.3 Yes The Best News Editor
     
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    JUST IN: There are now more than 1,000 COVID-19 cases in Negros Oriental after 24 new infections were reported today, provincial IATF ground commander Dr. Liland Estacion said in a press conference this afternoon (Jan. 6, 2021).
    Among the new infections include a bank employee, government employee, and a pastor, and three family members of a previously infected COVID patient in Manjuyod town.
    Of the new cases: 11 are from Siaton town, four are from Manjuyod, three are from Dumaguete City, two are from Tanjay City, and one case each in Valencia, Tayasan, Amlan, and Ayungon.
    Two new deaths were also reported today, both from Dumaguete City: a 71-year-old male and an 83-year-old female.
    The total cases in the province have climbed to 1,008; 180 of these are active cases, while there are 798 recoveries and 30 deaths. #NewsBite | via Raffy Cabristante, 106.3 Yes The Best News Editor
     
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    Party's over, folks.
    Members of the Dumaguete City Inter-Agency Task Force (IATF) called out Friday night partygoers gathering along the Escaño Beach in Dumaguete City and told them to go home.
    The Dumaguete City government is now strictly implementing the curfew amid the rising number of COVID-19 cases in the city.
    As of January 9, 2021, Dumaguete City has 107 active coronavirus cases, according to the latest tally from the Provincial Health Office.
     
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    #NewsBite: Here's the latest breakdown of the active COVID-19 infections in Negros Oriental as of today, January 12, 2021.
    The province today recorded 84 new cases, 55 new recoveries, and two new deaths, bringing the total number of active cases to 207.
    Dumaguete City remains as the province's COVID-19 epicenter, having the most number of active infections at 98.
    Sibulan comes second with 27 active cases, followed by Tanjay City with 19 and Siaton town with 11.
    Bacong town has nine active infections, while Zamboanguita, San Jose, and Bais City have seven active cases each.
    Amlan and Manjuyod each have six cases, Valencia has four, while Sta. Catalina has three.
    Dauin, Tayasan, and Basay towns have one active case each.
    The total number of cases in Negros Oriental is now at 1,118, with 207 active cases, 979 recoveries, and 32 deaths. | via Raffy Cabristante, 106.3 Yes The Best News Editor
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    As the amount of cases are going up we are trying to go into town less but when we do go it seems weird that all the precautions seem to be getting relaxed or disappearing altogether.
    For example we went to Mc Donald's beside the market place and the Perspex sheets between the tables have been removed and there seems to be more tables on the ground floor than last time we were there , if they want to get more customers in why don't they simply reopen the upper floor and still keep people further apart.
    I commented before that wherever we go the social distancing also seems to be forgotten now and it was the same again yesterday. :doctor:
     
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    Most people get easily fatigued by repetition - even when danger lurks. But with suggestions that herd immunity in this country via vaccination may not be achieved for 5 years (btw, sinovac is proving only 50% effective and only 30% of Filipinos seem willing to have any of the vaccines - add to which possible viral mutation and concerns I can see about all the vaccines currently available*) fatigue is only going to get worse. I speculate if wealthy countries can achieve herd immunity soon, many foreigners may leave those countries where the virus is virtually endemic (around all the time).

    * My concerns are based on that all the vaccines in use are, as far as I am aware, made using genetic material or live virus (even though attenuated (weakened)). Live polio vaccines have mutated and caused new strains of polio and surely there is a risk putting genetic material (which is simply a template to make more of itself and to make proteins) into our cells.

    I will wait for a vaccine based on non-genetic material (e.g. protein coat). I would go for a totally killed vaccine except that there is no guarantee all the virus was killed (possibly eliminate that risk by sound batch testing).
     
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    The argument in favor of the mRNA vaccine is that it only produces the spike on proteins already in the body. Only the spike is on a few existing proteins. The rest of the protein is already familiar to the body.

    The other vaccines introduce many other features that may to the immune system look like other healthy cells in the body. This would cause inflammation as the immune system is trained to attack these other features.
     
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    Not wanting to sound like a certain Mr R - but do you have a source for this (i.e. where I can read it - not for you to prove anything) as I am not fully understanding it. :smile:
     
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    Common vaccines are weakened or inactivated versions of the virus, like the yearly flu or the polio vaccine children receive 2 months after birth. A huge variety of antigens, some useful and some not, can be presented since cells are receiving the entirety of the virus .....

    https://massivesci.com/articles/mrna-vaccine-covid19-coronavirus-moderna/
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    If an unvaccinated person catches the virus, they will produce antibodies that prevent the virus from entering human cells. They may also generate antibodies that do not have much impact. And in some cases, a person may produce antibodies which actually help the virus enter cells.

    mRNA vaccines are much more specific. They are designed to only trigger an immune response to the virus’s spike protein, which is just one component of the viral membrane and enables the virus to invade our cells.


    https://horizon-magazine.eu/article/five-things-you-need-know-about-mrna-vaccine-safety.html

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    The point is that the other non-mRNA vaccines introduce many other features, other than the spike, that may to the immune system look like other healthy cells in the body. This would cause inflammation as the immune system is trained to attack these other features.

    Interesting that the allergic reaction of the vaccine vs placebo is about the same.

    In the clinical trials, allergic reactions occurred in 0.63% of people given the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine, and in 0.5% of people given a placebo.
     
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    So you mean they only code for the spike protein? They have no other genetic material? But how can they force a cell to make new viruses with the 'wrong' spike protein if they don't have the code to make the rest of the virus particle? I admit they did not have mRNA vaccines in my time of study so I need to check this out more - if the mRNA in the vaccine codes for a virus particle (virion) then it must possess more than a code for spike protein. Also, there is a group of particles called viriods that are, in fact, just RNA (with no protein coat) and are the smallest known pathogens - they do seem, currently, to infect only some plants and do not cause any direct major human health issues, but it is possible that the Hepatitis Delta Virus may have evolved from a viriod.
     
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