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A word for face shields

Discussion in 'COVID-19' started by Notmyrealname, Sep 30, 2021.

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    Notmyrealname DI Forum Luminary Highly Rated Poster Showcase Reviewer

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    Having read about vaccinated people catching Covid (but generally NOT getting hospitalised) I think everyone (vaccinated one dose, two doses or unvaccinated) should be thinking about face shields - whatever government tells us and whatever people will write here about air currents! I am not such a great fan of putting too much emphasis on hand washing as between washing times the virus can so easily be picked up and passed on. I am a 100% advocate of well-fitting face masks combined with face shields (although until now I wore the latter only when requested by a store). The face shield helps prevent droplets landing on the face mask and also prevents touching of the eyes and this area is not covered by a face mask but is a perfect route for entry of the virus (many studies show this to be the case). It may be that many infections in mask-wearers are via the eyes by touching or by transmission through the air from an infected person. I wear specs so have a part protection (mainly to reduce touching of my eyes) but it really makes sense for me to wear a face shield all the time outdoors as I am not yet vaccinated. The fact that vaccinated individuals are getting Covid means the same for them - although their risk of serious illness is far less but the unpleasant experience and worry is still best avoided.
     
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    If a disco/restaurant can require long pants and shoes to enter they can require masks and face shields. Private entities can mandate whatever dress codes they feel like no matter the alert level. If an individual or establishment wants to require Big Bird or Elmo costumes to enter their property they are free to do so...even if at their own peril. You can only complain and vote with your wallet when it comes to private entities.
     
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    I think the chance of catching it through the eyes is very low, but I do wear the face shield indoors, etc. None of the autopsies have shown infection along the optic nerve. They do find it in tears, etc., but the person is coughing so that could be how. While it does look like a good entry way, I've only read of one person who thought they got it that way on a long plane flight. Many people wear poorly fitted surgical masks. Those filter around 40% out and less if not fitted properly. I've noticed myself making mistakes, and tend to think we are all human and do that. I do wear clear plastic dust shields that Aces gave me from cataract surgery, but those aren't accepted as face shields by guards. I think a good fitting K95 mask works, but I suspect knock offs. They tested knock offs and some of them were up to 80% though, which I think is pretty good. If I take a plane flight, I'll be wearing the ACE's dust shields though.
     
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    A large study showed that 19% of health-care workers became infected, despite wearing three-layered surgical masks, gloves, and shoe covers and using alcohol rub. After the introduction of face shields, no worker was infected.

    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanmic/article/PIIS2666-5247(21)00040-9/fulltext
     
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    Agree, when you minister infected symptomatic people you must be totally protected, but for those of us who go about our daily lives with social distance and fully masked then face shields should be optional
     
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    Well that's convincing enough for me. I stand corrected. :smile: But what I've seen health care workers wear in pictures looks like a large goggle that can accommodate glasses. I've got one pair of bifocals that I don't like, but I'd wear them for a plane flight under goggles for the added protection. I'll pay attention.
     
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    pros and cons aside, are face shields currently still required in Dumaguete malls or not?
     
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    Not required yesterday in Robinsons or Hypermart.
     
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    Robinsons downtown wanted one yesterday, but they have the word now per my wife. Lee Plaza, Unitop, Robinson's Mall didn't require them.
     
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