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  1. PatO

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    If anyone is looking for a builder, PM me, I have a recommendation. Only two minor imperfections and both were quickly fixed.
     
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    Who is this builder? is he a foreigner or some local guy? If you have a house constructed with CHB there will be more imperfections than you can imagine but they never show until much later, it will all be frosted over with the icing on the cake (the render covers a multitude of sins)
    Just to give an example of what I am talking of, I know two brothers one has a very beautiful house it is quite stunning, it looks just perfect to the very naked untrained eye, this was built in his absense (Pinoy Builder) when he was back home and his wife did the project management. now the second brother decides to use the same builder he is younger and a bit more knowledgeable than the older brother on building, 2/3 months into this job this guy was booted he was that fecking useless, younger brother is now on his third Pinoy builder, No2 builder was just as useless as No1, I would bet my boots No3 is just as bad, because none of them really know what the feck they are doing, they have no formal training in their trades.

    I have posted pictures here on DI showing a great example of what Foreign builders are capable of, some of them are worse than the Pinoys, the Pinoy is likely doing the best he can do with his limited training? not so the Foreigner some of them are doing the best they can do to Rip off the Customer most of whom know Feck all about building?

    Perhaps you are giving this recommendation with the very best of intentions and to the best of your knowledge? but we are not talking small
    change here we are talking pesos Millions.

    This is a word of warning to everyone here that may read this? look very carefully before you Leap, there is little of any really good builders here in this area, if there is he will be busy for sure, sorting all the cock ups of the Cupid Stunts.
     
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    My fire-wall rendered 2017 has got multi cracks in it. I can confirm what Dave 1952 is saying. If the rain is hitting the wall it comes through the wall.
    Needs water-proofing but is very high no one want's to do it or have not got scaffolding.
    Asked builders off FaceBook One came round but made an excuse, said he will do it but looking for the best water-proof paint, that was last September lol.( Expat)
    Anyone knows a builder with metal scaffolding to reach 50 ft let me know. Cheers.
     
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    50 ft wow that is high. We have a couple guys we have gown to trust over the years to do the best possible job. As had been said their knowledge level isn't always there, but they sure do try hard. One good example is we have a CHB wall, maybe 10' high surrounding our main property in Bacong. The front have hollow block half way then decorative metal the rest of the way and of course the gate is metal. Last year we decided to have them repainted and hired a guy we thought was decent. We just happened to have another guy come out for a different reason and saw what the first guy was using. He stopped my relatives right away and showed them why why the first guy was doing was wrong. Sure it would kind of work but it wouldn't last. We ended up having the second guy finish the project and everything looks brand new. Everyone is extremely happy with the quality of work.

    We have been very lucky we haven't hit many snags like that in all the projects we have. Other than repainting the house, we don't have any crack, leaks, or any other noticeable flaws that have come to light years after it was built. My brother in law has worked hand in hand with all these guys to learn how they do it, so he can do a lot of the work himself now and do it right-at least the best Filipino way.
     
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    That's the highest point.
     
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    Well Sir I'm not sure that waterproof paint will cure this? if/when you paint over the cracks it is highly likely the paint will crack as the cracks move, usually they only get wider? likely the main cause of this has been the render is far to strong a mix, weak material like CHB requires a weaker render to even up the expansion and contraction rates, of course a 50ft wall will have pillars made of a very strong mix I assume, so it would be unlikely that the pillars would accept this weak mix a catch 22 situation. Personally I think it was never a good idea to build with CHB to such a high level?

    I know this is no help to you but I suspect you could be throwing good money after bad trying to paint over the cracks, it never works, even if a Pinoy tells you it does, do not believe him.
     
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    You might want to use polybond with fiberglass mesh to cover the cracks. This way the concrete underneath can expand and contract.

     
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    Thanks for your reply but I never said paint over the cracks. The man in question is an American builder. If I was younger I'd do it myself. The cracks need grinding out and use a suitable filler. It's getting hold of the scaffolding the problem. BTW. Before I retired I was a tradesman painter and decorator.
     
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    Sorry I assumed when you mentioned the builder and the waterproof paint, there was a possibility that you were going down that road as you never countered that suggestion of his? there is some dumb fcuks around that would think this is the answer to the problem (painting over the cracks) of course I get it now once the cracks are repaired it will need painted over to hide the repair.

    The answer to the scaffold is an easy one, you must buy it yourself you are going to need this for many years to come, this wall will keep on cracking from now until doomsday, it will get worse as time goes by the reinforcing steel will be corroding at this very moment, once again I will make an assumption? that this wall is a three layer construction, CHB in the middle layer (sponge cake) and render to both sides, even the smallest crack will allow water under the first outer layer, capillary action will take place and spread it around a bit, these highly porous blocks will just soak this up.

    It is also highly likely? that there is no render under grade, what is happening to the steel down there I do wonder?

    CHB and the methods used to build with it here is about as bad as it gets, the idea was brought over from US I believe and what do they know? Haha

    Patch up the Fecking wall and sell the Hoose.
     
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    Wow, according to Dave every hooose in Doomagute built with CHB is a fecking spooonge destined to crumble in a few years. I know that my house has many support pillars sunk deep down into the ground that were constructed with a steel rebar cage and poured concrete, and then there is a very thick poured concrete and rebar foundation, and the first layer of CHB is well above ground level with a thick outer skim coat. I thought that was standard construction procedure? Is this still subject to the types of problems he is describing? Maybe I need to sell my hoose and move into a fecking cave. :wink:
     
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