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Buying Land Property and Safely Living in Negros Oriental

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  1. Jack Peterson

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    Brian, Larry is quite right on this, the most acknowledgement, you exist at all, in your marriage and paperwork pertaining, to buying a Lot and House/Nipa Hut will be on the deed of sale and the Title, when you eventually get it, Will be saying


    Purchaser/Buyer Mrs ............... married to mr .............. a so and so National, Everything else will be in your Wifes name.
    I get the impression Brian, that there are quite a few things, that you are not certain about, If you don't mind, later, When my connection, is a little better, I will post,what happened to us and the purchase of our Lot in 2009 together with all the follow up and Application things, you will need to do when you decide to build. It gets a little daunting but if you do it right, it all works out.


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    Thank you Jack, you are correct, I have never bought Land or a House before in this lifetime and yes it is daunting at best. I see so many 'Huts' that I assume have never had an application lodged and am wondering if this Nipa Hut is even on record? I think my main problem will be the Framework as I want to use I-Beam Steel welded and bolted together, cemented into the Ground with steel framework inside so the house is a cocoon that will withstand and stand up to almost any Typhoon thrown at it. I am not sure if in Duma they will have someone who can basically design, build/erect heavy Industrial Steel Framing as I believe it would need a small Crane to get the main A-Frames erected which will be approximately 36 feet tall. But do they have design rules? Here in Cyclone areas all Houses must be bolted to the slab/ground and the walls bolted to the floor, and the roof bolted to the walls. Even if they do not have these rules I would like to follow a dash of common sense mixed with my usual; "Overkill"... :wink:
     
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    Henry Ford once said, "You can have colour you want, as long as it is Black" I am sure between us all here, It can be done!! plans can be sorted, for many types of builds.
     
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    Brian , I noticed you used a very expensive word , for the Philippines "STEEL" , that is why most everything here is concrete post and beam , as in cement , which is made in Cebu about 2 hours away from your future location (apo cement) and labour to mix it , which is abundant everywhere , remember what you said about fitting in with the locals ? Mate you will find that things are done there a certain way because of cost and availability , concrete hollow blocks core filled with concrete and concrete post and beam construction , it aint gonna blow over anytime soon , JP and Larry and Expatron will agree with me on this I am sure . We went through a 5.4 on the richter earthquake there about 5 or 6 years ago , it near on through me out of bed , and not a scratch of damage to the house or structure.
     
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    :( So... Industrial Sheds there do not use the I Beam Steel frames? I was hoping to have the initial Framework Fabricated at the Business then transported to the site to be erected and bolted down to supports already concreted into place so that we could begin adding as we go and building the two Floors with steel frames bolted into place using mild steel bolts which would flex to some degree, then using a mix of Plies and Timber above ground to hopefully avoid White Ants...

    View attachment 11474 Using this wonderful stuff to make this;
    View attachment 11475 So as to minimise on structural supports as you get with using Timber as the idea was a small A Frame house where space is lacking at each turn. We would use much more Timber especially in Supports to gain strength, whereas Steel Spans can bear more weight allowing for more open space.

    Look at the skeletal frame of a House made from Timber, a frame made from lightweight pressed steel, then one made from I Beam. Was a thought more so along the lines of practicality rather than expense.

    Sorry; sometimes OCD takes over, and having spent the better part of my life building Cars and Customs where strength, longevity and perfection is a must for something to stand the tests of time, it is a hard habit to break. :(
     

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    I have seen high end businesses using those to build. More frugal businesses use a concrete (filled with rebar) beam.
     
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    Part of the reasoning behind it is; when I was a much younger Pup, an old Couple wanted to raise their old home and Council refused them when they submitted the plans from a Builder, so they went ahead and did it their way using something like 10" I-Beam for the supports under their house. Not only did it take out so many Stumps that were a pain in the @ss but it was such overkill, after they invited Council to inspect, they were so impressed they basically submitted all their own plans after that knowing that their way far exceeded ANY Council requirements for Cyclone Proof Houses in Maroochydore on the Sunshine Coast Queensland.

    It has always sat with me that overkill is peace of mind, I have learnt if you exceed your own expectations you can sleep peacefully at night, which is what I plan to do in the event of any Typhoon (Maybe a Crows Nest is in order for tidal Surge? Might not be as silly as it sounds :p hehe)

    View attachment 11476 But take a simple House...

    View attachment 11477 View attachment 11478 Then peel it back to what holds it up...

    View attachment 11479 Then compare the strength of Steel and compress it down to fit inside the above with copious amounts of usable space without all of the framework that is necessary with timber...

    View attachment 11480 Then in the event of a Typhoon my House will not end up looking like this...:wink:

    IF I-Beam Steel IS available then that is the way I would like to go, otherwise; using Concrete I am sure I will end up building a House that resembles an Igloo so that winds merely deflect up and over the top of the cement with nowhere to get under to try and rip it apart... Hmmm?:confused: I think what I am after really at the end of the day, is a Nuclear Bomb Proof Fallout Shelter above ground... :D Yep!
    PS: if you knew me; you would know well enough I am being serious here... :wink:
     

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    Sorry guys been a tad busy here trying to sell what I can to raise enough to come back.

    I never looked into the effects of a high pitched Roof assuming that an A Frame basically begins at ground level so if built behind a wall of the Highway I thought it would stop wind getting under the edge of the roof and the higher pitch would deflect the wind over the top, I got this idea into my head after watching Houses on the Sunshine Coast here in Queensland during Tropical Cyclones. The flatter roofs, especially the Tiled Roofs, as gusts of wind passed over, it lifted the Tiles in a wave formation. I always assumed it was more so creating a vacuum as the wind passed over lifting the Tiles as it did so.

    But I will look into it further, as in my mindset, the A Frame was a perfect solution for building a sturdy double story home on such a small piece of land... :(

    Thanks for the links and information. :smile:
     
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