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Is Filipino time about to change?

Discussion in 'Off-Topic Forum' started by Jack Peterson, Jan 13, 2015.

  1. Rye83

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    Maybe that statement is true of small businesses, certainly not true on a large corporate level. Nice motto to try to lift moral though. Makes everyone feel important
     
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    True that . The non performers get to hide and blend in larger corporations , and remain undetected at times
    But the notion that it is ok to be late is dreamy , next they will be telling you what they will and won't do.
     
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    Sorry guy's just realised the time......
    Ooooops in my hurry to leave left out.... Just
     
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    One of the reasons it is easy to fire someone for coming in late is time can be a very precise issue without any judgments..... well it was 8:oo AM ish until it became 9:oo AM.
    The point is firing is no a brainier, and that is what most Filipino employees are hired to do, no thinking... following rules which are absolutely black and white requiring no thinking or judgments. Not making judgments is endemic in the culture.. court cases illustrate this as unless you see someone shoot someone with a gun, and then see the bullet go in the body and the person die, there is a judgement involved and nothing happens in the trial. Everything has to be crystal clear otherwise someone has to make a judgement and in most cultures judgments involve consequences (a word missing the the Filipino culture) and no one wants to face the consequences of anything they do in the Philippines... so they do nothing....
    Since consequences are seldom considered these two young ladies never suspected that not showing up for work in a timely manner would have any consequences on their employment.
    Off topic but good example: Within the first 3 months of coming here I was suppose to meet two young ladies in the CdO area. We had met the previous day so it was not a new meeting. When I asked what time they wanted to meet I was told "between 3 and 4." When I asked if they could be more specific I got one of the most honest answers I have had in the Philippines: "That is specific for us" .... Welcome to the Philippines where life is more fun, and time is worthless.
     
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    When I walk into one of the many big corps here on the many occiasio
    I did a horrible job at explaining myself.

    In my first post, I included this snippet.

    I will try again.
    • This post was titled "Is Filipino time about to change?"
    • I felt this thread was framed as "the Philippines is headed for better times in the way businesses are being run" though I may have misunderstood JP's post.
    • I consistently experience poor service with many big corps here. If I can buy something without having to talk to anyone then I might be okay. The more interaction required, the more likely my experience will be negative rather than positive.
    • A good customer experience is actually difficult to achieve. It's often the battlefield on which a company can differentiate itself from the competition.
    • If I'm consistently receiving bad service, then the manager isn't doing his or her job. Whatever the manager is doing, it's not fixing this problem. This includes firing employees for being late. Anyone can fire employees for not following rules in a book. The real test of skills is fixing problems which aren't encoded in a rule book. This is what these businesses fail at.
    • I'm sure these businesses have mastered the concept of firing employees for violating rule X. Maybe now we can focus on happy customers? I haven't seen that so far. I'm waiting.
    I also sabotaged my post by going on a tangent. I went on about having no schedule and not having to be at certain places at certain times. Let me try again on this point.
    • Kids, you have one shot at life and you need to grab it where it counts, by the balls.
    • The Philippines has a seriously jacked up economy. The only outcome you guarantee here by playing by someone else's rule book is to be a wage slave.
    • If you are getting paid minimum wage in your job, that's because that's what the market values your contribution at. The fact that you are right at minimum wage means your job is being valued artificially high because of government laws.
    • If showing up to work on time is significantly weighted as a performance metric in your job, then you are in urgent need of building out a more valuable skill-set.
    • Showing up (on time even!) is important, but anyone can show up. If you can't provide much more value than showing up, then you need to go back to the drawing board. That's why you got fired, you only need to do one thing and you couldn't even get that right.
    • As you build up a more valuable skill-set, you get to call more of the shots. You get to take more control of your time. People respect your time because they know it's valuable. You can choose not to work with people who don't respect your time. If you can save, then you can stop working entirely if you wish.
     
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    Google translate would disagree with you.

    Consequence = kalalabasan

    However.....the word "punctual" seems to have no direct translation to Tagalog.

    Punctual = hindi nagkukulang sa oras (literally meaning "Not missing the time") Oddly enough, Cebuano does have a direct translation of "untop"....not to be confused with "ontop" which has a completely different meaning. It seems I have been confused all these years, I've always thought that they just wanted to be on top....when really they have just been trying to insist that I finish "untop". :wink:
     
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    I had a good laugh when my GF's father told her in reference to me "He's American, you have to keep American time now"! :eek:
     
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