Dumaguete Info Search


Ph condemned as will turn away boat people

Discussion in 'News and Weather' started by DavyL200, May 19, 2015.

  1. DavyL200

    DavyL200 DI Forum Luminary ★ Global Mod ★ ★ Moderator ★ Highly Rated Poster Showcase Reviewer

    Messages:
    3,968
    Trophy Points:
    401
    Location:
    On an island
    Ratings:
    +5,126 / 466
    • Like Like x 1
  2. Rye83

    Rye83 with pastrami Admin Secured Account Highly Rated Poster SC Connoisseur Veteran Army

    Messages:
    13,106
    Trophy Points:
    451
    Occupation:
    FIRE
    Location:
    Valencia
    Ratings:
    +16,070 / 3,796
    Blood Type:
    O+
    The Philippines has enough of their own problems. They don't need to be taking on Myanmar's as well.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  3. Jack Peterson

    Jack Peterson DI Forum Luminary Highly Rated Poster SC Connoisseur Veteran Air Force

    Messages:
    9,112
    Trophy Points:
    451
    Occupation:
    Happily Retired
    Location:
    Northern Junob, Dumaguete City
    Ratings:
    +5,254 / 1,090
    It is about time theses Do Gooders had a go and condem the countries these people are escaping from from. Human Rights (Like charity) Starts at Home.

    JMHO :bag: :thumbsup:
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
  4. denpet

    denpet DI Senior Member Highly Rated Poster Blood Donor Veteran Air Force

    Messages:
    581
    Trophy Points:
    186
    Ratings:
    +351 / 96
    Blood Type:
    O+
    And IF they took on refugees. To what would it be? There is no social welfare for citizens, so refugees can't expect anything either. They might even be better of where they are escaping from.
     
  5. DeRail

    DeRail DI Member

    Messages:
    79
    Trophy Points:
    183
    Ratings:
    +82 / 5
    i guess they will be taking them

    Philippines offers refuge to desperate migrants trapped on boats | World news | The Guardian

    The Philippines has signalled it is ready to take in thousands of migrants who are stranded on Asia’s seas, the first country to offer shelter after its south-east Asian neighbours blocked them from entering.

    Manila, a signatory to the United Nation’s refugee convention, said it would help as it denied a local report claiming that the Philippines planned to push back boats carrying some 8,000 people fleeing persecution in Burma and poverty in Bangladesh.

    “The Philippines has extended humanitarian assistance to ... ‘boat people’ and had even established a processing centre for Vietnamese travellers in the 70s,” said Herminio Coloma, a spokesman for the president, Benigno Aquino.

    “We shall continue to do our share in saving lives under existing and long-standing mechanisms pursuant to our commitments under the [UN] convention.”

    It would be a long and unlikely journey for the migrants – who are believed to be in the region of the Andaman Sea – to make it to the Philippines on their rickety boats with little food and fuel.

    However, the statement raised hopes for a breakthrough in the crisis in which nearly 3,000 refugees and migrants from Burma’s persecuted Rohingya minority group and Bangladesh were rescued off Indonesia, Malaysia and Thailand.

    “It is a hopeful sign. We hope the governments in the region would lift their game as well,” said an International Organisation for Migration spokesman, Joe Lowry.

    “We have been saying for 10 days now [that the governments should allow migrants to land]. We don’t know how many people have perished now.”

    Malaysia, Indonesia and Thailand have turned away boats, despite the UN’s warning against “floating coffins” in the region’s seas.

    Advertisement
    And the fate of about 300 people aboard a boat that was pushed backwards and forward between Malaysia and Thai waters last week is still unknown. The boat has not been heard for at least three days now, said Lowry.

    Malaysia and Indonesian coastguards could not be reached for immediate comments.

    Meanwhile Burma’s main opposition party, led by the Nobel Peace laureate Aung San Suu Kyi, has finally broke silence on the issue of the Rohingya saying the Muslims fleeing dire conditions in Burma are entitled to “human rights”.

    “If they are not accepted [as citizens], they cannot just be sent on to rivers; can’t be pushed out to sea,” said Nyan Win, a spokesman from Suu Kyi’s National League for Democracy party on Monday.

    “They are humans. I just see them as humans who are entitled to human rights.”

    Malaysia’s foreign affairs minister will meet his counterparts from Indonesia and Thailand in Kuala Lumpur on Wednesday to discuss the migrant crisis, ahead of a regional meeting in Bangkok on 29 May.

    On Tuesday, the Indonesian foreign minister said her country had already “given more than it should” to help the migrants.

    “This irregular migration is not the problem of one or two nations. This is a regional problem which also happens in other places. This is also a global problem,” Retno Marsud told reporters after a cabinet meeting at the presidential palace.


    but there big hearts might just turn into big headaches

    GalliaWatch: The Islamic invasion of Europe

    We are being submerged. The invasive flood of illegals in no longer just a tide, but a tidal wave. Never before has illegal immigration attained such rhythm and magnitude. Yet what seems to worry the authorities and the media are not the explosive consequences for Europe, its people, its economy, its security, its identity, of this phenomenon never-before-seen in history, recalling Jean Raspail's prophecy in Le Camp des Saints (1973); no, what preoccupies them is not stopping the gigantic migration but bemoaning the fate of those drowned and rushing to the aid of those shipwrecked. Perfectly honorable, but ridiculously insufficient, without any serious protective measures taken, and at the risk that this tragedy will lead to an explosion.
    The figures are terrifying and surpass anything one could have imagined. In 2014, 170,000 persons landed in Italy (compared to 23,719 in 2002). Since January 1, 2015 25,000 illegals have landed in Italy, not to mention Greece and Spain. The figures are up 42% compared to 2014. In eighteen months 210,000 migrants have landed, 91% of them embarked from Libya, having arrived there from all of Africa. In 2015 Italy is expecting 200,000 refugees! No one will be turned away and these African masses, a majority of whom are Muslims, will then spread throughout all of Northern and Western Europe. Many will file (bogus) requests as political refugees. Those refused will never be expelled. They will stay and they will all receive aid and subsidies. All of this is known in all of Africa and it attracts crowds of illegals who take advantage of the imbecilic soft-heartedness of Europeans - rather, of the leaders, not the people who are never asked their opinion.
    250%: This is the rate of increase of illegal border crossings in the European Union from 2014 to 2015. Forced returns and expulsions are infinitely small in proportion. Sweeping over Europe, in 2014, 280,000 illegal arrivals were counted, 80% of them by sea, three times more than in 2013. All from Africa, the Maghreb, the Middle East. Frontex affirms that in Libya alone one million persons are "ready to sail to Italy."
    What was once droplets from a porous faucet are now broken pipes spewing forth geysers.
    Note: The next four paragraphs explain that this is nothing less than a dissimulated Islamic invasion:
    The jihadist forces, in solidarity with Daesh, have taken control of part of Libya, obviously seeking to organize a massive immigration toward Europe. In their minds, it is an invasion that enters into the planned process already begun of the massive Islamization of our continent. Moreover, this trafficking brings in large sums of money for them, besides the revenue from the pillage of Libyan oil. The migrants pay between 1,000 and 2,000 euros per person to the traffickers, who amass a fortune.
    The Maghrebin traffickers and passers, slave traders of the 21st century, deliberately and cynically overload the boats so that they sink. Playing upon the soft hearts of the Europeans, they thus lure them to come to the aid of the victims; and encourage the landings on the shores of Europe. A vicious circle.
    The blackmail of Daesh is formulated in this way: abandon on the boats 700,000 boat people. The Islamic State is behind these organized flotillas and this exodus is regarded by its manipulators as a dissimulated invasion. To destabilize naive Europe. Ninety percent of the illegals entering en masse are Muslims. On April 16, twelve African Christians were thrown overboard by Muslims.
    Italy is the veritable port of entry of the invasion. The phenomenon has been going on for some time, in small doses, but ever since Qadhafi and the Libyan State disappeared, yielding to the chaos of Islamic militias, through the stupid fault of the Franco-British military operation (Sarkozy on the advice of the idiot BHL, and Cameron), the door of the invasion is wide open.
    Note: He points out that in 2014 the refugees cost the Italian State 800 million euros, of which 45 million was paid by the EU. In 2015 it will be three times that amount. Operations Triton and Mare Nostrum, while supposedly protecting the shores of Europe, in fact encourage more refugees than the chaos in Libya because they give assistance to the boat people who are led to believe the trip is safe. Many illegals refuse to give their finger prints and give false identities, preferring to remain illegal, knowing no one can expel them. Their goal: Germany, Benelux, Austria, France. They regard Europeans as patsies who don't defend themselves.
    He then goes on to denounce the governments of Europe:
    Currently a majority of ethnic Europeans, especially those from the working classes, are no longer moved by the "distress of the migrants"; they've had enough of this invasion of illegals - 90% of them Muslims - that they can see will end in catastrophe. The political and media oligarchy in power, allied with humanitarian associations, show-biz celebrities, Churches, etc… does nothing - quite the contrary - to stem the tide. It believes itself to be safe. In Italy - sheer madness - they have just abolished the crime of illegal immigration from the Penal Code. The more the evil grows, the more it is exacerbated.
    The politico-media class nurtures a dramatic atmosphere of pity and commiseration in public opinion, in order that the humble folk shed tears over these "martyred" illegals. One thousand seven hundred drowned in the Mediterranean from January to April 2015 alone. And 5,100 since October 2013. The media produce shocking reports over and over, in order to provoke a mix of pity and guilt. But that will be less and less effective…
    It is the Catholic Church that is leading in the domain of mea culpa, following the declarations in Lampedusa by the Pope, who, on the one hand, is concerned about the persecutions of Christians in the Near East by Islam and, on the other, condones the massive arrival of Muslim illegals in Europe. Bishop Giancarlo Perrego, president of the Migrantes Foundation at the Conference of Italian Bishops became indignant in the name of charity: "The twenty-eight countries of Europe only take in 650,000 refugees, while Lebanon, a country of three million inhabitants, has a million on its territory." He finds it shameful that Europe does not totally open its borders to all migrants and refugees. Like all other suicidal and irresponsible immigrationists, he accuses Europe of being a fortress, when in fact it is a sieve without protection, where anyone can enter as into a windmill.
     
    • Informative Informative x 1
  6. KINGCOLE

    KINGCOLE DI Senior Member Highly Rated Poster

    Messages:
    686
    Trophy Points:
    271
    Occupation:
    RETIRED
    Location:
    BATINGUEL
    Ratings:
    +984 / 443
    Blood Type:
    A+
    They should settle them on Spratly Islands.
     
  7. PatO

    PatO DI Forum Luminary Highly Rated Poster Showcase Reviewer Veteran Marines

    Messages:
    6,202
    Trophy Points:
    451
    Ratings:
    +4,678 / 1,020
    What I cannot understand is why Indonesia and Malaysia, both muslim countries, do not accept their fellow muslim brothers and allow them to enter? I guess you could ask the same for the ones from Africa and the ME going to Italy instead of Saudi or a muslim country?
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  8. Rye83

    Rye83 with pastrami Admin Secured Account Highly Rated Poster SC Connoisseur Veteran Army

    Messages:
    13,106
    Trophy Points:
    451
    Occupation:
    FIRE
    Location:
    Valencia
    Ratings:
    +16,070 / 3,796
    Blood Type:
    O+
    Ah, so when this happens to Europe and the rest of the world they get to say they are losing their "identity". Let a white American say that and they will be called bigots, racists, xenophobes, etc etc. How does it feel Europe? Never before has anyone seen a "tidal wave" of illegal immigrants? Yeah, ok. :meh:
     
  9. TheDude

    TheDude DI Forum Patron Highly Rated Poster

    Messages:
    1,907
    Trophy Points:
    351
    Ratings:
    +1,465 / 822
    Did they just assume the nationality? Or did they actually check? They should make sure these people aren't fleeing Filipino's who ended up on the wrong island.

    FWIW, I offer refuge to any hot chicks in that group.
     
    • Funny Funny x 1
  10. TheDude

    TheDude DI Forum Patron Highly Rated Poster

    Messages:
    1,907
    Trophy Points:
    351
    Ratings:
    +1,465 / 822
    I mean, this place ain't all that. People assume that everyone wants to come here. Nevermind the legions of OFW's who can afford a plane ticket to GTFO rather than having to take the boat. If it was a boat full of old, fat, white guys drinking SML's then yeah, go ahead and make your assumptions.
     
Loading...