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Valencia build - the sequel!

Discussion in 'Expat Section' started by barryrio, Dec 29, 2017.

  1. cabb

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    Tried looking for that post under EVG, EVG panels and EVG with you as the poster. Got this error.

    The search could not be completed because the search keywords were too short, too long, or too common.

    Are there better keywords to search for it? Curious to learn some more.
     
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    Hi Shawn, I do have questions on the use of the EVG panels, how do you apply the mortar by hand to them, (Special tools required )what is the mix and aggregate type (rough or fine sand)? I do know there is a specific tool for throwing pebbles on wet mortar, harling is the technique and it is called a harling trowel it is a scooped crescent shape, I guess the panels would be wetted before the mortar is applied as you would do with all concrete mortar construction?
    I was hoping you would have made comment on my idea of using EVG for the pillar construction, as you are possibly the only one to have used them?

    Dave
     
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    There was a guy in Valencia that was making a tool to spray the mix onto the EVG panels. I'm sorry I do not have the info or his name. He was working on some of the larger jobs in Duma that was using EVG, maybe he can be found.
     
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    Thanks for that, I guess someone will know of him and get back to us here?
     
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    EVG 3-D panels

    Hopefully that helps; if not it is in the hobbies special interest, property development.

    Shawn
     
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    Dave...we applied it the same way they do the render over block. You just have to make sure they do not go too crazy wanting to put too much on for each application. Slow and steady as they say. Also, to keep the panels plumb support the side you are not applying the render. The panels we were able to get were 4'X8' so you will need to tie them together for longer lengths. Used tie wire as recommended but also tied some small rebar into the joints as well, can't say that it is needed but it gave me some piece of mind.

    I wanted to think about your idea for the columns before I responded as I had not thought of that or seen it done. If you search these panels you will find different thicknesses, all we could find (without special order from Manila) were about 2.5" thick with the mesh (if I remember correctly). So using the "standard" panels I would assume you would have to oversize your columns for proper rebar sizing, spacing and concrete coverage. I'm guessing here but I would think you would have to completely finish the EVG panel exterior then additional bracing before placing concrete so your "EVG formwork" will not blow out. I think it could work or would be at least worth trying a sample column to get the procedure down. Once you render these panels they are quite stout.

    This should probably be split to not take over the OP post, in my opinion.

    Shawn
     
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  7. Brian Oinks

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    Agreed I am finding this very interesting, please do... :smile:
     
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    I read through my post from years ago on the EVG panels and it was not too much info. Here is the link to the house build posts...very long at over 49 pages but a lot of pics and some patience you will eventually get to the EVG panels going in.

    House Build

    Shawn
     
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    This is a youtube link on these panels in Phil.

     
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    the company who build the sprayers, and will rent the equipment, or come to building site and spray walls, is ruwak farms, in valencia. they have facebook page. 0915 900 8106
     
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