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Duterte ends “Endo”

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  1. Jack Peterson

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    Plenty are surviving, No one knows a Good from Bad employee until the "Proof of the pudding is in the eating" many can pass an interview yet fail at the Job, all I am saying is that there needs much more thought on this issue.
     
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    As you should, unless someone can show you something to change your mind. :wink: What percent would you say are bad and what percent would you say are good? We can all learn from others experiences, so I hope you don't mind probing into where you opinions come from. I know some people have taken my curiosity the wrong way. I've seen some very hard working Filipinos, it just seems that with the competition for jobs (lot of workers and few jobs), that the vetting process should get rid of the many of the bad workers. Why is the vetting process so poor in the Philippines?
     
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    Agreed, hence all my posts on the subject.
     
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    Just my 10 cents on this as I said in a previous post many can get past the Interview with some Bio that is credible but are just not workers.
     
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    Because traditionally, hiring a lot of employees for 6 months and letting the bad ones go at 5 or so months IS the vetting process. So how do you tell the difference between abuse of the system and vetting process. Quite simple. If the business owner is letting the employee go within 6 months and then a few months later hires that same employee back for another 6 months, THAT is abuse and it is where I agree with you. The ones that are let go and never hired back have been "vetted" IMHO.
     
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    I struggle with the numbers. Sure what you suggests happen, but it appears that the poor workers are interviewing a lot better than the good workers. It's appears that if 100 people interview for 10 jobs, 9 of the 10 people hired, will be incapable of doing the job. That is what leads me to believe that there is more at play here. I've expressed what I think it is, but that's not preventing me from trying gather more data that might sway my opinion in another direction. Thanks.
     
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    That seems like bad business to me. Is that how you would run a company or agency? Agreed that the obvious is obvious, but what about the not so obvious. Would you concede that a business could use this ENDO to save money on SS, medical care, vacation, sick days, etc? Maybe that's what I have trouble with. Running a business this way makes no sense. How does this process make sense? Bad employees can alienate customers and cause customer sat issues that hurt profitability and cause you to lose customers. If you went to a restaurant and had bad service, how likely are you to go back?
     
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    Yes they "could" but they "could" also be using this policy to create a lot more employment than they would otherwise create if they had to pay more money. Could is emphasized as we are just playing a guessing game here. In the past, the system was put in place to encourage businesses to give more jobs to more people. Fact is, a lot of people are working under these 6 month contracts that should have been fired long ago. Maybe its time to fire them all and work with a skeleton staff of hard workers. Would not hurt my feelings. I hate going into a retail store and having someone follow me around like a puppy dog. But I also hate seeing them hiding from the customers in a corner playing on their cell phones. I justify it, in my mind, that at least they have a pay check but most stores could get by on half the staff if they were workers not shirkers.
     
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    That's an interesting business strategy. Is there really a difference in pay? Jack suggests that an employer does not know whether he is getting bad or good employees, so the pay is likely the same since you can not tell the good from the bad. Are you saying that businesses care about the employment situation in the Philippines and to address it, they have made the conscience decision to hire bad workers at a reduced wage?
     
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    To me, he is playing a somewhat "Devils advocate" on this one. With his New Penal Code now in Force (I believe) Employers are no longer able to say much to a shirker, calling them Lazy and whatever, so to my mind they are leaving it up to the Agencies to sort the wheat from the chaff, This is clearly not happening, Yet another Shot in his own Foot ( The President that is) There is no real end to it and for me, the Filipino was used to the situation so why try and Fix something that was not really Broken :hmmm: Food for thought ?
     
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