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Emergency American arrested today for selling illegal drugs

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  1. danbandanna

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    No one implied that he did not smoke up all of his profits as is usually the case in "middle level dealers" they just can afford to have a stash bigger than most street addicts. This drug creates misery and suffering to people who have barely a chance to live a life of any substance much less a productive one, not to mention the wives and children who have to "go along for the ride". All of this from a man who had a better chance in life by being born in a "first world country" but choose to come here and add to the suffering. No.... no sympathy here...
     
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    The initial report I read said it was his 2nd arrest for drugs. Why is he still here? Should have been jailed and deported not to return after the first time. How many lives does he need to destroy?
     
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    If they did it right he would not have been deported, just sitting in a stinking Filipino jail mulling over and over in his head was it worth it..
     
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    The drug (or any other drug) isn't the problem. Most drug users use drugs (alcohol is a drug as well) without ever becoming addicts or developing a problem. Addiction and mental illness is the problem. This old school US 1970's "war on drugs" thought process is garbage. It doesn't work. Drugs are not the problem. Mental health is the problem.

    I guess it turns out that you have to actually be convicted of a crime in a court of law before you face any real repercussions for the action you were accused of...as it should be. Just being arrested doesn't mean sh*t, anyone can be arrested for any thing at any time by any police officer. They may have set you up for some reason, they may have a chip on their shoulder and don't like foreigners, maybe you flirted with their wife and they wanted to get even, maybe they overheard you talking smack about the Philippines, maybe you were found guilty by association (hanging out with people you didn't know were dealers), they may have planted evidence, they may not have and just arrested you without bothering to plant evidence. This is why courts exist. Law enforcement does not get to determine who is guilty and who isn't.

    Being arrested does not mean much of anything other than you were accused of a crime...but that accusation means nothing until a court agrees with it and finds you guilty. It is amazing how many people here think an arrest means a person is guilty. If I didn't know any better I would say these people come from and support a police state.

    Maybe they did it right and they found that the evidence didn't support the accusation? Good thing they don't have trial by jury in the Philippines. I would never opt to be judged by my "peers"...since most of my "peers" seem to think that "arrest = guilty, case closed".
     
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    Maybe they did it right and they found that the evidence didn't support the accusation? Good thing they don't have trial by jury in the Philippines. I would never opt to be judged by my "peers"...since most of my "peers" seem to think that "arrest = guilty, case closed".





    Really... so someone planted that 8 grams of Shabu .... Some times a cigar is just a cigar
     
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    It is not unheard of for evidence to be planted by police. There are videos of police in the US doing this available online. The police have access to much more 8 grams. 8 grams of meth takes up about 8 tablespoons. The police in the Philippines have been caught running scam buy-bust operations. They have framed people in the past.

    Is this guy guilty? Possibly. Does he deserve his day in court and should he be presumed innocent until proven guilty? Absolutely. That is the standard where I come from and the way it works on the Philippines as well. I really hope you never find yourself in police custody under false accusations (for any charge) and have to deal with people going online screaming you are guilty due to the simple fact you are in police custody.

    Read the anti-violence against women and children law and imagine a scornful significant other who wasn't actually abused in any illegal way but decided to file a bogus charge with the police to get even...then your name gets thrown on a forum somewhere and everyone is labeling you a woman abuser even though you did nothing wrong. Wouldn't be nice, would it?
     
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    Again... Agree to disagree
     
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    Looks like he was caught selling shabu (methamphetamine). Of course, that is a really nasty drug (not a soft drug like grass) so I have no sympathy because he was busted selling it, not just using it. At 50 years old and being American, I would wonder if he can survive a few decades in the Cebu jail. I am quite the US will give him zero help.


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    I think this was the one where they did a photo spread in a FB group on the April buy bust. I was ticking through the points they were making- improper description of the house which implicated the buy the night before wasn't done, etc, and realized he had a pretty good lawyer. It didn't convince me, but I would like to know the name of his lawyer. :smile:
     
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    No it doesn't, but in this instance there was a warrant issued. That means a Judge had to sign it and from the evidence submitted believed there was probable cause. Nobody is advocating a "police state". I have seen visitors deported for less than this.

    Deportation is an Administrative Action not a criminal action and the reason is in the eye of the BI.
     
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