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    One reason why the Philippines has one of the lowest numbers of COVID-19 infections is because of the non-availability of testing kits. Although there had been some donations from other countries but these donations quickly run out and test only a fraction of the entire population. There's a fat chance that many of us could be walking around with the infection. It is scary since many Filipinos trust in what the DOH or Department of Health reports. So if the DOH says the country has only round 200 infected cases, Filipinos will be thanking the heavens for that small number compared to the numbers in Italy, south Korea, Iran, etc.

    The goal is to flatten the curve and we (esp. here in Dumaguete) are doing everything to ward off the evil coronavirus. We sanitize/disinfect ourselves and our surroundings, we avoid crowds, wear masks, etc. We hope to conquer this challenge soonest by stopping the spread of the virus.
     
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    Excellent comment. With the worst yet to be seen who knows what the end figures will be and then there is the threat of re-infections springing up. No one should feel complacent about this virus and take what after all are very simple and logical steps to prevent the spread. Its airborne and its surface (touching something) borne.
     
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    There have been several articles who's title uses the term Airborne. I believe airborne is not the correct word. The articles then go onto describe the aerosol dispersion of the virus.

    Aerosol dispersion would be droplets from a sneeze or cough. The particles are not suspended in the air but for a brief moment.

    Airborne would be like pollen or spores on the wind.

    If the virus is actually airborne then social distancing is of no value.
     
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    Fine I think people reading airborne will get the drift. Its in the air and it can be transferred that way. Whether its droplets or a mist who cares? Its airborne. Stop splitting hairs!
     
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    If anything harmful is in the air - however that is described - then social distancing IS essential. If you are 30 cm from an infected person then you are likely to get infected, IF not wearing a mask, but if you are 10 metres away then what is the chance?

    I have just seen a very large group of young men walking along a beach - seem to be heading for the same place. Social distancing is a concept the younger will simply not follow.
     
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    In a place like the Dumaguete Public Market social distancing is unheard of and impossible to happen. It is very crowded, people just bump into other people's shoulders, arms, rears, etc. plus beggars are sometimes there to poke you for some coins. But this is one place that is hard to control since everyone gets their food their when malls and supermarkets are closed.
     
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    So people should be wearing some form of a face covering - but trying to tell people what is best for them and the whole community is pointless. Even on this forum people argue against the case for wearing a mask - some even say they are of use only if worn by an infected person to protect us from their excretions, even though they have no idea who around them are infected. In fact, a face covering is essential to REDUCE the chances of inhaling the virus (usually within droplets) and to stop a person touching the mouth, nose and eyes. The skin is the first line of immunity - like the walls of a castle - but it has holes in it. The mouth, nose and eyes are holes in that defense system and need to be protected.

    People in authority, even some experts, are telling the population not to wear masks unless they are infected (but actually, how do they know they are infected!) - I think the ONLY reason for this very stupid advice is because they want to reserve face masks for health workers. I base that view on the fact that 1) It is nonsense (and the retrospective analysis of this crisis will criticise the lack of face masks for the general population) and 2) Masks are being described by government websites as PPE - that means Personal Protective Equipment. So if they don't offer protection then why are they acquiring them for essential staff and calling them PPE! The answer is that governments don't plan ahead and so did not stockpile masks - I entered the Philippines 5 years ago with a supply of N95 masks. Why did I predict an outbreak of this nature but governments did not? It is because I want to survive over the long term but governments think only short-term, in most cases.

    If people don't have proper masks (and I think it is now too late to acquire them) then use a scarf/bandana, line it with tissue and replace that every 2 hours or so, and wear eye protection (specs if you wear them or sunglasses if not - getting low tint or non-tinted glasses is obviously best but I am not sure they are available other than for sight problems). Goggles would be good - but it human nature not to want to look odd in public, even if death is lurking.
     
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    I don't think what I said was splitting hairs. There is a huge difference between aerosol and airborne. People that can not or will not be educated do stupid things.
    Stupid things like party on Miami Beach because they think the Covid-19 is just the flu.

    If you read the whole thread you will see I was responding to misleading media.
     
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