I cannot agree. https://www.health.com/condition/infectious-diseases/coronavirus-worse-than-flu go look at it and its an article written last April. We now know much more about this and its obviously worse than that dated article makes out. We now have totally different figures and they are still increasing. I do not agree with you Rye83. I think what you said that it is no worse than the flu is totally wrong and mis-leading, so ban me if you will.
I didn't say that. I said it was sightly worse. Meh. Still not concerned. The mortality rate will continue to drop as we find more asymptomatic people and the standard of treatment continues to rise. Closing the economy was an extreme overreaction. Stop this tampo stuff about getting banned every time you disagree or state an opinion. You were asked to stop doing something by a moderator/me (I can't even remember what it was), it is over, stop pouting about it. It is unbecoming of a$$ grown man.
WRONG ! The crude mortality rate has nothing to do with the number of people who are asymptomatic. It is only the number of people who died verses the entire population. Finding more asymptomatic people will not change the statistic. @Rye83 you are being hypocritical. You base your argument on a statistic (0.28% crude mortality rate) that greatly benefited from the extreme social distancing. You then use this information to make an argument against extreme social distancing. In other words the crude mortality rate is a measure of the number of people who died verses the total population. (Not just the population who became sick.) The crude mortality rate is very small because of extreme social distancing resulting in a small percentage of the population getting infected. It would have been much larger if the pandemic was allowed to run its course and infect everybody. @Rye83 referenced:
It is quite natural, IF the worst is over, to use hindsight to say what should not have been done - but if the virus had mutated/recombined with another virus and became a huge killer, overwhelming hospitals worldwide, many would be asking why everyone did not implement immediate controls such as in Vietnam (300 cases, NO deaths IF figures are accurate). Anyway, younger people don't really care about controls as they see themselves almost 'immune' to the illness and would gain from the deaths of millions of the elderly. The 1918 Flu pandemic killed mostly younger people, so I guess they had different attitudes to it and would have been extremely angry with elderly people who showed very little concern for them.
Slightly worse .... dont think so .b The flu and the new coronavirus have similar symptoms, but the latter is far deadlier. Here’s how the two diseases’ death rates compare among various age groups in the US. The coronavirus is five to 10 times more deadly than the flu for those between the ages of 0 and 45. It is 12 1/2 times more deadly than the flu for those over 85.Extract from an article by Business news.
Something that is rarely deadly is still rarely deadly if you multiply it by 10. I am just not in the age or health group that has to worry about this. I simply don't care and I'm not afraid of it; and I really have no reason to be as my chances of surviving COVID-19 if contracted are d*mn near 100% (even if it was 100 times more deadly than the flu I would be far more likely to survive than not). I like to spend my time and effort working on and preventing things that are far more dangerous and likely to kill me, such as obesity and heart disease. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm#AgeAndSex https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/global-covid-19-case-fatality-rates/ Meh. Sure, if you are elderly and/or have health issues quarantine and isolate yourself, you have every reason to be fearful...but your disabilities/age is not my burden just as someone's weight, lack of exercise and poor diet is not nor is my smoking, and the risks associated with it are yours. We don't shut down the world economy for every other illness that regularly kills the elderly and immunocompromised, I don't see why we should with this.
Yes. But there are solutions that we can strive for that keep the economy open while minimizing the impacts. Many countries have beat it down to where they can open the economies fully. Australia, Thailand, Finland, Hungary, Malaysia, Niger, Norway, Slovakia, Slovenia, Taiwan, China, Japan and South Korea. https://www.endcoronavirus.org/countries#winning I do not agree with your implied belief that we should let it run amok and overrun the hospitals.
an interesting article; the Corona virus is not the only one putting a mess on us. after reading this we have a reason to stay home forever. https://www.mdlinx.com/article/5-vi...an-the-new-coronavirus/7wQzXjJudXjqIZVb8eU6LI btw, about 3 million children die from malnutrition a year. just wondering why I never saw such drastic measures like now against the Corona to stop this. https://www.worldhunger.org/world-child-hunger-facts/
This is because the corona virus has additional side effects. It's impact on the economy will cause many more children to die of malnutrition. Coronavirus: World Bank warns 60m at risk of 'extreme poverty' https://www.bbc.com/news/business-52733706 This is why so much resources are being applied to slow it down.
Correct, Now we see that the voices of those who say "I am young so it does not apply to me" and "mask? I don't need no stinking mask !!) are the ones who are filling hospital beds at an alarming rate in multiple cities not to mention the political rallies (sheesh) so yes many people die every year of many things but it has little or no effect on the economy.... This Virus may cause an unprecedented depression before it is over.... And the longer it ravages the US the more possible that mutations will occur ...... So it may not kill you but it will kill your foreseeable future...
