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  1. Dutchie

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    Err, no.
    What you're writing is the casual denial of a a person who can't imagine dyslexia sufferers having a brain that functions differently from theirs.
    It sounds much like someone telling a physically impaired person that if they would try hard enough they could walk just like them.
    A little too easy that.
     
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    Dyslexia is a term now used to call a more serious reading problem that is brain-based and managed with medications. Sustained tutoring or teaching should go hand in hand with meds in this case.
     
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    Of course "hyperactivity" as it was once called, does definitely exist as a cognitive characteristic as applied in this case, to school children. It always has. But the newer, formal label "ADHD" calls, what is usually a natural and normal behavior of hyperactivity in some kids, a psychiatric "disorder" and that is relatively recent perhaps going real mainstream in the early 80's. Like it or not, such labels are demeaning and demoralizing because the world treats them as taboo. Disagree? Would you like to tell a prospective employer that you were diagnosed with "attention deficit hyperactivity disorder" on a the health questionnaire of job application?

    We would never have approved the admin of legal shabu to our kids as they grew up, certainly not for the purpose of chemically enforced compliant behavior in the classroom. Like many, I question whether chemical intervention is the best way to deal with kids who have a difficult time dealing with the educational process which can be boring to some children; "boring" results in the "attention deficit" part of "ADHD". When I was in class in the 50's/60's I distinctly remember there were always a few unruly kids in each class (but no meth prescriptions); some such kids were disciplined by having to stand in the hall, or write things down on the blackboard in repetition, or kneel on the floor or suffer a few cracks from a ruler on their knuckles. There were spankings sometimes. A few had to take time out for a 3 day suspension (I agree that seems counterproductive to the interest of the child and wont make a judgment on it). But they still do it today anyway, even with the widespread availability of these behavior modification drugs.

    At other times, prior to this treating of supposed anti-social symptoms with meth, the kids were able to change teachers, sometimes with excellent results; different teachers can present topics differently in the minds of certain kids; what they found mundane and boring previously they would now find interesting and want to learn more about it. I am sure that has happened to many of us.

    And finally there was the very rare case where a kid was so bad that no teacher could conduct a class without him and he was expelled. Juvenile delinquency and institutional detention sometimes even entered into it but that was the rare situation, an exception where drug therapy might be appropriate if it occurred today.

    A few of them turned out to be successful later on getting their GED diplomas later on as serious students, outgrowing their rowdiness after learning a trade as a mechanic or joining the military.

    I don't recall any of these earlier measures causing physical and mental addiction as methamphetamine compounds are prone to do. My kids' classmates kept requiring these drugs throughout high school and college. I have to wonder how much mental creativity has been stifled from these kids in their formative years after tranquilizing them into submission.
     
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    Seen a few from Bacong, at least the marauding tribes with their upbeat classic Boom Boom box on full blast.
     
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    The term Dyslexia has been used since the late 19th century to describe the difficulties certain people have with reading and/or writing. There's nothing new or recent about it. Dyslexia is a lifelong condition, it is not an illness that can be treated with medication.
    But most importantly, and that's where we agree, sustained tutoring / teaching can help a person to overcome these difficulties to a degree, depending on the seriousness of the condition.
     
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    Please keep going with your knowledgeable and intelligent discourse on this subject - just plough through the advice given by those who know nothing and then relax with a cup of tea and a piece of heavy cake. :smile:
     
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    Again, another condescending remark that is unnecessary because of some people who believe they know everything and others know nothing. Every opinion matters, though, whether it is backed by many years of research or science, or simply by experience and observation.
     
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    Late 19th century is contemporary or close to 20th century and that is considered recent or novel. We never had such a term back in the day to describe those who had a problem in reading. It is a very rare condition. Most reading problems may have something to do with poor or the absence of a reading program at school, the child's mental capability, the environment (the home where reading is not encouraged), etc.----
     
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    Having seen the level of education in the rural areas away from the city, I would have to agree with this. Most of the issue is a lack of encouragement and quality expectations. Yes there are rare medical issues but the overwhelming issue is the poor quality education and lack of expectations from the parents. Many parents have no education at all and cannot read. These are not bad people. It is that educational expectations are not the cultural norm.

    I am surprised how willing the kids are to learn. It is quite positive and entertaining for them. One of the casualties of the pandemic is the closing of schools. The online effort in the rural areas is horrible. The take home modules are better than horrible but still poor quality.

    You would think that a philanthropist by now would have created an online and modular (paper based take home) education system for people served by poor schools. It would also serve as an example for the rural teachers to copy from.
     
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    You seem to think that we're not already in the 21st century. Late 19th century is more than 120 years ago.
    To refresh your memory, that's the time when there were no mass produced cars, telephones, washing machines, refrigerators, etc etc. Hardly contempory.
     
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