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I thought the landlords in the US were bad,...rental scams

Discussion in 'Dumaguete City' started by onlymichael, Aug 31, 2012.

  1. Charlie

    Charlie DI Senior Member Restricted Account Veteran Coast Guard

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    You can always ask for references and speak with previous renters. If the landlord won't give you any, then you know to move on.
    Get to know as many locals as possible from good recommendations. It is amazing what a grapevine of information they have.
     
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    onlymichael

    onlymichael DI Member

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    Agree completely with last two posts by RR_Biker and Charlie T.
     
  3. RR_biker

    RR_biker DI Senior Member Veteran Marines

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    References or the grapevine, both should work though....Renters that moved on are sometimes difficult to get in touch with, where as the grapevine can be more time consuming to find out about a location/landlord/lady.
    A blacklist of crooked landlord/lady on this forum should make the trick, but I doubt if The Dane will be happy or even allow it, after all among his customers who are advertising on this website are @least a couple of crooked landlord/lady. But business must go on and to determine a landlord/lady is honest yes or no isn't the concern of a DI board moderator unless......But if anybody has doubts about the reliability of a landlord/lady why just put the question in a new topic so that other members can give positive or negative advice about the location/premises/house/apartment based on their own perception. In public nobody will be hurt or condemned but it can prevent a fellow DI member getting trapped with an unsolicited situation.
     
  4. Rhoody

    Rhoody DI Forum Luminary

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    I understand where you come from, but thing certainly doesn't work like that for many reasons.
    If you really believe that one or two 500 peso ads on the classified section in a month are business or even covers the cost for actually setting it up (not talking about server or software costs), well, I am happy if you wanna do that for us for 500 php (and you can keep all), I will forward you the next inquiry and you can give it a try...

    The blacklist won't happen and you gave the ultimate reason why it won't work by yourself.

    In your little paragraph you already blame anonymously landlords/ladys.
    That just opens a can of worms nobody can control.

    If you read the ToU and announcement you will see, that anybody can mention his positive and negative experience.
    It is also stated that the poster need to make clear who he is, how he can be reached with contact numbers/email.

    Just because an Member W heard in McDo that Mr.X or Mrs.Y know somebody who had a bad experience with Landlord Z does not mean he/she can use this platform for badmouthing anonymously. I am sure local newspapers will give anybody the options to publish their experience. Both weekly are happy to get free content and are just a email or phone-call away. If the landlord is that bad, one can even make an paid add (not expensive) there.

    nobody gets hurt... uhu...
    Well, I thought actually that you are a bit more experienced than that. One can get a case filed against him even there is no connection at all. Even if a Pinoy from Singapore writes a bad hotel-review on tripadvisor about a hotel in Bohol .. (yeah you read correct and it has nothing to do with us here in Dumaguete) suddenly you have a court letter on your desk.
    Hard to believe, but after 3 years and 4000$ spend you slowly start to believe that.

    However, if you want to name anybody, feel free to do so, tell who you are and make the statement that you take full responsibility for your post/statement, that it is your and only your opinion and how you can be contacted, because" I am RR_biker and some ads here are crooked landladies/lords" is _____ in its purest form.

    following the section from the ToU and announcement:

    I believe that is just fair, isn't it ?

    Thanks for understanding

    Rhoody
     
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    RR_biker DI Senior Member Veteran Marines

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    I didn't open this topic and just gave my experiences leaving details such as names etc. unspecified; is that not allowed???
    So should have been better not to allow a topic like this on this board @all.
    When 500 p isn't enough to cover the costs or makes it a little profit, I can't help and yes I'm not interesting in any kind of business in this country.
    Why is it that in case of some kind of non positive info there's always a lot of critics from the moderator; isn't allowed and only but positives?
    What's wrong about when somebody asks to be informed a landlord/lady is honest yes or no prior to sign a renting contract and give him/she more info by PM (not in a public posting on this board), maybe you misunderstand me on that point or wasn't I clear enough.
    Thanks for all your comments but all in all it's still a storm in a glass of water. Nobody got hurt or blamed personally.
     
  6. Rhoody

    Rhoody DI Forum Luminary

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    Sorry Sir, just blame my english skills if I miss understood your clear statement:

    So follow therules and name them. No problem at all with us...

    If one can't stand behind his/her own words

    one should just be quiet, end of story...
     
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    RR_biker DI Senior Member Veteran Marines

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    I have no problems when you copy a quote from one of my previous postings, but if you do so also include the remaining part of the sentence. Just a matter of reading and yes it might be possible that your English is even a fraction less than mine being a non native English speaker, but who cares.
    Well I said more than enough and any additional reaction from my side I consider it as a waste of time which can be better spend on what life can make worth to live for. So wish you all the best and don't forget to post your nest comment so that @ least you have the bitter taste of the final word. It's fun in the PH.
     
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    onlymichael

    onlymichael DI Member

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    I have to comment here. THe problem with all of these forum pages is there is a conflict of interest. I find very very few pages that do not censor by deletion or otherwise when negative information is posted about the P.I. Most of these web page owners have business interests in the P.I. or they are supported by such interests, and they cannot afford to alienate them. I don't know the status of THIS page yet, but thats the way 90% of them operate. Say something negative or bad about Phil and you will be flame blasted, deleted or banned. That was what was great about the usenet and still is except not used that much anymore, you can remain anonymous AND give your opinion.
    Giving your identity just sets you up for retailiation and you can be SHOT DEAD here in the P.I. or jailed if you p*ss off the wrong person. No, I don't think it's right to publish someone's name with SPURIOUS unproveable charges, but I think there are cases where the truth must be told against people who are dishonest, crooked etc. The place to do that now is the usenet, since u cannot do it here or at most web sites.
     
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    Renting is always a 2-way story.
    Renter as well as landlord are always at risk, one for not maintaining the property as expected, the other for not receiving his monthly rent.
    It don’t have to be a horror story.
    In the Philippines it is possible to register the lease contract in the municipal hall.
    This adds to security for both parties…at a price.
    If the contract is registered, the landlord will have to pay taxes to BIR and therefore ask a higher rent.
    But rental income is always taxable in the Philippines, yes very few will do so but it is the law,
    Ones the lease contract is registered, both parties will be more likely to stick to the rules of the contract, and if one of the parties will not follow the rules you always can complain in the municipal hall, and in the Philippines most likely someone don’t want the trouble.
    Just talk to the landlord in advance
     
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    onlymichael

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    why on earth....

    leads you to believe that registering in city hall will have any effect on whether or not a Filipino or foreigner for that matter will keep the agreement?

    the courts here are notoriously slow and corrupt so what makes you think city hall has any better batting average? I have a friend here who has been trying to get squatters off her land and has been in court for years, no action. Maybe that's one reason why some people hire private assasins to get justice here?
     
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