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On unemployment, what is really the cause?

Discussion in 'News and Weather' started by shadow, Feb 22, 2014.

  1. john boy

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    Loan sharks here in UK offer loans on National Television with anything up to 1028% interest, yes 1028%, and the Government allow it. While I agree that one should not live beyond ones means. Manageable credit is a acceptable way of obtaining whatever you require. How many people buy a car cash or other goods for that matter. This World would not exsist without credit and Companies would go bust without it. Money makes the World go round.So does credit.
     
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    Maybe they just do not want to work!

    Maybe they just do not want to work!

    I recently hired a young man to work around my house… gardener/helper type. He worked for three days and earned 720 P, he was paid daily. On the morning of the fourth day he decided he did not want to work that day. No notice to me, just my other helper saying he did not want to work that day. His reasoning was that now he had some money in his pocket so he did not have to work that day. My lady helper who brought him to me said “Dumb Filipino thinking.” I have had this happen previously but never so openly. Of course this young man lived at home, and could not see any reason to work and save money. This young man did not have a career and particular formal training for the job market, which may have influenced his desire to work. I was showing him new skills.
    Maybe the unemployment rate is high because they do not want to work… they do not have a government welfare system here, but they certainly seem to have a family supported welfare system. It may even be that the more a family member works, the more he is taxed by being required to support the family more financially.
    There may be very little incentive for the untrained to rise up within their social structure developing work skills or a constant income.
     
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    There are some very good workers here, but there are also many more who fit into the category you described.

    Larry
     
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    A perfect example of the short term thinking here with no thought for tomorrow or preparation for the future. No need to work when there is some money in the pocket, and only start to think about replacing it when the money runs out. No reserve, no thought, no organised life, no hope. Buying a load today is far more important than being able to eat tomorrow. Crass idiocy in perpetuity, the architects of their own misfortune.
     
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    I would like to change your sentence in this way: This "kind of" World would not exist without credit and Companies would go bust without it. Money makes the World go round.So does credit...
    Maybe it would be a much nicer World without financial credits ...
     
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    What I find fascinating…and to some extent this includes my time when I lived and worked in the US, but certainly here in Australia - I can say without hesitation….9 out of 10 Filipinos/Fililinas (especially) are working and working hard. They have a very good reputation here…as carers, nurses, cleaners, tradesmen, and engineers….Most are doing d*mn well. So whatever the problem is - it is there in the Philippines. It's going to take a very long time to change the mentality there - but they do catch on quick when real opportunity presents itself….
     
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    Maybe when they leave the take all the motivation out of the Philippines

    I have encountered Filipinos in other countries and agree with you.... hard working people. Maybe the motivated ones, motivate themselves right out of the Philippines to another country to advance their own future. That leaves only the unmotivated ones here in the Philippines.

    Then OFWs can dream of coming back to a nice new large house and a nest egg for their future from the money they have been sending back. However sometimes unfortunately upon their return they come home to a clan of lazy drunks with a plot of land cover in weeds maintained by the unmotivated ones at home with lifestyles all financed by their own foreign earned money.

    So I also agree the "whatever the problem is - it is there in the Philippines."
     
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    Its not the oportunity that presents itself.. it's that they don't have the support they have with their relatives and family so they have to get off their @ss and do something..
     
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    I think thats true of all of us no matter what nationality, how often do you hear of kids born with the silver spoon in their mouths who go off the rails into drugs and other bad things, while those with some ambition/ need in life, get off their bums and go for it. But you still need an opportunity or a little help these days.
     
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    When I moved to Sydney and did my nursingive come to realised how far behind Philippines were/are compared to the western countries. When I was in uni in cebu which is considered as by far the best nursing school there is in cebu taught me nothing compared to what's offered overseas the reason I said that is because students here spent more time sitting in their classrooms and spent heaps of hours in discussions rather than hands on. I believe that if u ask eg a nursing student what's a lifter and what it is for..they know what it and what it looks like but has never used it!

    Everything in ky days even up to now is all manual handling which made me realised people here work hard for cheap Labor and it's crazy. It's like this country is living far behind to other countries and I agree with the article, these crazy lawmakers should start thinking on letting foreign investors invest but unfortunately this "crab mentality" attitude from most Filipinos will get in the way where they strongly believe that if they let foreign investors come and invest then they're taking the opportunity to what should have been for the Filipinos and the thought that we will just be nothing but slaves which we already are but worst is... We're slaves in this pathetic corrupt government where everyone has to put up with so much corruptions no wonder were always lack of facilities and equipments
    It is really frustrating especially how people operates here and u see them all over the place. The stupid ones are the one who gets hired and they don't even know what they're doing just because they have a backer or they know the owner while the ones with potentials end up either working overseas (loss for pi) or stuck at home doing nothing. But as to what they always say "it's more fun in the Philippines" sure it is! But stupidity comes with a price.
     
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