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Discussion in 'Property Development' started by ShawnM, Apr 18, 2014.

  1. ShawnM

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    I had the wife double and triple check that this picture did not come from an expats build and I also considered that it may not be correct to call out another build (guess that will be up to Larry to decide) but wanted to show some shoddy construction. There are more things wrong with this than I have fingers for.
     

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    I've seen much MUCH worse.
     
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    Anyone Remember the total abortion, at the front of Robinson's Place a couple of years ago? Now, that had to be worst safety risk I have seen in a long time.

    I guess they patched it up, with Brown Paper and a skim of Plaster.:rolleyes:

    But then, we know, where we are.


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    What I have noticed time and time again , they simply do not understand the tragedy of leaving exposed steel reo out of concrete , slowly the rust spreads to within the support structure and explodes the concrete

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    JP , we had some sand and gravel delivered a couple of years ago , in sacks , on a dilapidated falling apart motorbike with open sidecar , 2 fella's pulled up on this thing with thongs on and unloaded , very hot day , late afternoon , I said do you blokes want a beer , the immediate response was no thankyou sir ,'' safety first ". I was still laughing as they drove out of the driveway.

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    that is very common here I knew of the end result but it seems they do not here


     
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    What I am curious about is if the average guy does not know better because it is how he was taught, or maybe they don't care because the homeowner may not know the difference.

    In a situation where you are bringing the rebar out to "tie" the roof down, then I agree 100% you have got to paint the rebar as well as periodically checking it over the life of the house. For the nipa I tied the floor joists to the rebar coming out and that is all painted twice.

    It is not my house so how they build is all about them, just wanted to show a pic of some major mistakes that I saw from some pics the wife sent to me. I do worry about that roof flying off during a typhoon or even some strong winds and coming towards my house.

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    Shawn that is what I was referring to in an earlier post , epoxy paint , especially on purposely left exposed steel , I can show you a build , that is about halfway between your place and my place that they ran out of money on , and left it as it sat , the support structure in place , all the steel left exposed and the concrete beams starting to crack and fail , all that initial work and investment just laid to waste .

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    Tony,

    The unfortunate thing is that when they get the money to continue the work they will probably just plaster over the cracks and press forward. I agree, a waste of what money they have spent.

    Did you notice the rebar placement in the picture? They do not have proper concrete coverage and that column, with the exposed rebar, will fail. Plus it looks like maybe 4 inches of rebar sticking up that "ties" in a roof built of 2X2 lumber. I just hope it does not come flying my way when the roof goes.

    When the guys starting forming the columns for my perimeter wall/fence the rebar was pretty much touching the forms (fortunately I was there and caught it at the first column). I had to explain concrete coverage and a 10" column was 10", not 8.5" and 1.5" of plaster. I was pretty hot so my point was taken seriously and have not had it happen again.

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    Shawn , I am hearing you loud and and clear , I am always concerned about coverage of concrete to steel there , me , I like to see 40mm , minimum cover of concrete , but the guys in the phils often use the render as cover when the steel is not positioned correctly , pretty scary , when it involves the integrity of the structure

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