I like the notion of shooting known drug dealers and arresting politicians involved in the trade. If 90% of the shootings and arrests are accurate, I will take the other 10% as collateral damage to cover the ones who robbed my house. FU bad guys.
No you are not I agree with you Pat. The first fresh wind thru this mess since I arrived her and that's six presidents ago. Now people have a trusted ear what will listen to them and don't come after them for upsetting their oh so profitable business/hand outs. Capture them alive and hang them is still showing to much mercy.
Any of you ever think about the fact that this collateral damage by it's very nature might actually hit one of your friends or family? Would you still find 10% innocent victims still tolerable then?
They have to be 100% sure before shooting anyone, I'm sure Pat0 only made the 10% collateral damage as a joke.
I'm tending to agree with this policy as well. I'd want them to be sure that such and such a person is actually guilty and involved in the drug trade and not just shooting anyone they get a tip about from an unreliable source. However I think the politicians should get the exact same treatment and not treated differently where they get to live and just end up punished a bit. As far as collateral damage it depends what said collateral damage is I suppose. Someone completely unconnected to it getting wrongly killed is to much but if a standoff with a drug pusher and the police results in deaths of that pushers family then so be it, they only have themselves to blame. As far as family getting caught up in it then so be it. I agree with offering the *out* there is now where they can turn themselves in and stop using immediately and they won't be punished but helped (of course not sure how the *help* is really turning out yet). But if someone still keeps supporting the drug trade even a family member they dug their own grave. If they end up in a grave then so be it, they had a chance and blew it and for such a huge life changing chance one can't afford to blow it.
Although it is extreme I generally agree with the policy also. Changes I would make to it would be including pushers, dealers, kingpins, and authorities protecting them, but not users. To try and keep it under control I would add a level of certainty required before any action is taken AND if an innocent bystander is injured then the shooter's name is added to the list.
According to the Metro Post: Of the 32 people killed in Dumaguete last year, 19 of them had links to the illegal drugs trade. I am not sure how they exactly come up with this figure as few if any of the murders were solved and prosecuted. Assuming the murders were perpetuated with in the "drug community self policing system" (under the moniker "PBBP" meaning"Pay backs, you bastards program) , what is the difference whether the murders are self policing/revenge, or they are caused by drama driven justice system here? There will be murders in Dumaguete that have a central issue the use/sales of drugs. There will be some amount of collateral damage, cause by other issues, and there will be people taking advantage of the system just like they do now. At the end of they year, numbers can be compared as to the police involved shootings, compared to last year drug related shooting without police involvement. It will be interesting. Editorial Post in the Metro Post reads regarding two murders: "Mandiola, ironically, was acquitted on Dec. 13 for illegal possession of prohibited drugs due to insufficiency of evidence. But his acquittal meant nothing to the gunmen. In Catadman’s case, there was no case filed against him. But he was considered guilty by the gunmen, just the same, and meted the death penalty." So would these have been considered collateral damage if they had been carried out by the police because they had not been convicted, or would they have just as they are now: unsolved murders? Remember, "Vigilante Justice enters the culture when the populous loosed confidence in the legal system." The citizens take the responsibility for achieving justice out of the government's operated corrupt justice system and puts it in their own hands. When the previously protected politically connected criminals start to lose their protection, then justice becomes an issue, because the vigilante's death penalty sentences are stronger than the justice systems slap on the wrist.
