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Americans may need secure visa before entering the philippines

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  1. DavyL200

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    TOKYO—Speaker Pantaleon Alvarez is backing President Rodrigo Duterte’s proposal to require Americans visiting the Philippines to get visas first, saying there should be reciprocity between the two countries.

    Alvarez said he was wondering why, while the Philippines allows Americans to freely come to the country, the US requires Filipinos who want to visit it to line up in the wee hours of the morning just to secure a visa.

    “If they’re not willing to grant us the same privilege, we might as well also require their citizens coming to our country to apply for a visa in our embassies,” Alvarez told reporters in Tokyo, where he joined Mr. Duterte on his three-day official visit.
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    Ok, then allow foreigners to buy land in the Philippines in the same way that Filipinos are free to buy land in most foreign countries - that is reciprocity!
     
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    It's pretty clear the Philippines doesn't like foreign nations meddling in their sovereign affairs.
    Good for the Philippines
     
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    Another example of comparing apples and oranges.
     
    cabb, Dec 28, 2019
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    I think that comparing visas to visas is comparing apples to apples. Dont you?
     
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    It isn't really a comparison of visas or they would be questioning every country that doesn't allow Filipinos to just fly in all willy nilly visa free. They are butt hurt and their pride damaged. They are just lashing out like little children. This is just talk and grandstanding, they don't actually want to go head to head with the USG in an immigration standoff. Where would their politicians send their money and run too when they have finished sucking the lower class dry with their corruption?
     
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    I guess the USA is getting tired of dealing with 15 million illegals running around the country from various countries. It's a failure of policy for a long time and also, hard to patrol a long border with Mexico, for example. At least in the Philippines, they deport you for overstay or you pay fines to stay.....so no burden of having to deal with millions of overstay foreigners. Just a few.
     
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    I agree. Americans should give equal rights to Filipinos. And Filipinos should give equal rights to Americans. This includes green cards, the right to work, real estate ownership, SSI, Medicaid and in three years citizenship. Hell yes. Equal rights for all.
     
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    I think the ones that started this, Durbin and Leahy, are the ones guilty of lashing out like little children and grandstanding.
     
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    Yes, a visa is a visa, what I'm referring involves a little deeper analysis into the why countries issue visas, which is what this is really about. According to the internet dictionary, a visa is "an endorsement on a passport indicating that the holder is allowed to enter, leave, or stay for a specified period of time in a country". If a country has an issue with visitors not following the rules, for example, overstaying, the visa is a solution to help with that. You will find this a much larger problem in the US, then in the Philippines. You will find it challenging to argue that Americans want to sneak into the Philippines for greater opportunity. The opposite can not be said. The differences are so dramatic that if you aren't aware of them, there is probably no point in me going into them. By the way, this isn't just a US thing. It would make sense that the Philippines would want to apply this logic to any country that requires a Filipino to get a visa. The best way to solve this problem is to become a first world economy with lots of opportunity, not try to dissuade visitors (who spend money) from visiting.
     
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