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Question Same Sex Marriages and the Implications of!

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  1. Jack Peterson

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    :unsure: With the Advent of Ireland's decision to go for the same Sex Marriage, a couple of Questions have come to mind for me. ( Not that I am in anyway Condoning or decrying it) [ Certainly no going to try it:eek:]
    I hazard a guess that the PI will never agree to it or even put it to any sort of vote but I wonder how they will view things. ( Legalities that is as they are married out of the PI)
    1. Will the foreign spouse of a Filipino in a same sex Marriage, be able to get a B.B. Stamp on Arrival with His/Her Married Partner? (The One partner is Filipino)
    2. Would Adultery have the same effect as a Heterosexual marriage? ( Should things go wrong Here)
    3. Would the 50/50 asset rule apply as it would in other countries that allow same sex marriage? ( land being as it is and purely Filipino owned)

    Just a couple of Questions as I have a previous Filipino colleague coming for 6 moths and I just sat and wondered. As he is Bringing his Husband?/Wife ( well what do we call them.?)

    JP :bag: :bookworm:
     
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    A spouse?

    It will be interesting to see how the Philippines will handle these things. I'm curious which will come first, gay marriage or divorce in the Philippines?
     
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    Quite agree, If there is nothing forthcoming on this before at least I can report how Hanz's Arrival was Handled in October,

    LOL of course it is still a Spouse either way.:thumbsup:

    JP :bag: :wideyed:
     
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    Personally I reckon neither will ever happen unless the church changes.
     
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    Honestly, I think the Philippines isn't that far from allowing same sex marriage. I think that will happen before divorce will be allowed.
     
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    Hmm we will see eh!
     
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    Today for the first time I read what an Asexual is. At first I thought it was going to be weird animal sex or something along those lines (no offence meant kiwis). What an Asexual is is a person not interested in having sex with anyone, male or female. The "A's"wish to add an A to the LGBT acronym or shortcut. All in favour say A. A
     
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    Spain, Ireland and Italy were all dead set against but they have moved forward, I believe the church is at this time a little fragmented It surely must start and move with the times and the PI with it.

    JP :bag: :whistling:
     
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    It doesn't stop there.

    "LGBPTTQQIIAA"
    Comprehensive List of LGBTQ+ Term Definitions
    Before long the acronym is going to need an acronym. :rolleyes: It seems a lot of that is just someone "one-upping" someone else to get their own personal label (Really, how many "Genderless" people can their be? If you aren't a male and you aren't a female then WTF are you? And the fact that my spell check just told me that Genderless is a complete BS made up word says about all I need to know. I'm not even going to bother to add that one to the dictionary.). It's all a bit ridiculous to me. You are either gay, straight or bi and you either born a man or a women (with one exception). I think it's fine if a person wants to be the opposite sex and dresses up accordingly. I really don't give a sh*t which one a person is, just make up your d*mn mind about it. I get it, you are an "individual" and want to be treated like the special little snowflake that you are.....now go p*ss off, nobody cares what you do with your private parts. A bunch of idealistic nonsense IMO.
     
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    Interesting thread. Many nations seem to be struggling with this issue - at least in terms of the rights issues for gay marriage. The Philippines seem to have many issues going on - no divorce, no gay marriage, no full property rights to non-citizens, women's issues, economic issues, etc.

    In some ways, it's like going back 50 years in time. While many other nations have and are changing social/economic policies to include all their citizenry with full rights and responsibilities attendant to their options and choices, other nations seem to do just the opposite. I would think it will take another generation or two for the Philippines to make any meaningful accommodations to any of the above-mentioned issues. I just don't see the Philippines as having a big focus on individual freedom of choice. As an outsider looking in, I've been left with the impression that there are more narrow institutional definitions and limits made upon the individual rights here than what many Western nations seem to allow. And more so if you are not of a heterosexual and of a male gender type.

    The challenge is how does a society/nation maintain a relatively cohesive body when only a smaller percentage of it's people actually fit into all these narrow molds of acceptable definition? The world of nations struggle with this all the time - how to balance the individual needs and rights within the social fabric of that particular nation. And how does that nation respond to the changing needs of its citizenry that allows for a stronger weaving of it's national fabric that can incorporate these changes so as to allow for fuller participation, national growth and individual prosperity?

    Like anything else, it's the 1,000's of years struggle of nations adapting to change or dying. There seems to be the constant birthing, the maturation, and the dying process of nations throughout the records of time.

    Looks like the Philippines is on the cusp for some more adolescent "growing pains". It's full vitality is yet to come.

    nwlivewire
     
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