What would it take to get an ExPat's interest?

Hi Everyone, I have been reading this forum since moving to dumaguete a year ago (saved me in finding a good mechanic among other things!) , but never felt the need to post. I know a few of the members in real life and they have encouraged me to ask this question here.

I know many of you are here on pensions and money is not too much of a worry to you, others own companies or rental properties here producing a good revenue stream, but for those of you who would welcome some extra pesos - What would it take to get a expat here in dumaguete motivated to work a part time early morning job?

I know some people here who would be great at it, guys who took an early retirement here to be with spouses or just test driving future ones that would be a good fit - but I don't want to offer too little compensation (or especially not too much

We have many staff here between Makati and Dumaguete so knowing the local rate is not an issue, but the expat (provincial) rate would be new to me, so who better to ask then all of you.

Surely its up to everyone individual situation, but what do you think it would take each of you to come to an office from 5am-8:30am each morning?

Another option would be Fil-Am's with perfect English, or perhaps kids 18+ of expats who moved here, but I dont know where to locate them, any ideas?

 

The amount of Pesos may not be the motivating factor for employment

I think it depends on what the job entailed, and whether it caught someone's interest. Some times working for any wage is better than sitting around trying to contain your gut while eating food all morning. However for some the money may be a critical issue. I think there are some rules regarding foreigner working here so that may be some consideration also. I think the personal need of the prospective employee to be active in some work related activity may be as important the pesos.

Why are you focused on expats for a work force? Answer this question and you may get some interest also.

A better description of the job, may help you get some clear answers for you. Also I think that each individual expat will have different needs to be motivated for getting up and working for 3 1/2 hours a day at 5:30, so assuming the peso alone is the motivating factor may be the approach that may get few results. Most ex-pat's reason for coming here was to get away from the regimental regulated business work force climate. Even most expats have enough "face" not to post up what they want financially when they know a Filipino company most probably could never complete with their previously employment for wages. I am just not sure that peso's is the primary motivating factor to attract ex-pats to the work force.

Good luck on reaching your goal.

 

Let's hear some more...

 

more info

Thanks for your feedback.

The position is not actually for my business, its for a professional association in California which I volunteer as the director of. The membership of the association are biomedical engineers (they fix medical equipment, many trained while doing military service).

The association is launching a new website next week and there is lots of ad inventory on the site to sell to the companies who are trying to reach this traditionally very difficult to reach end user in the hospitals.

Expats would be preferred as its a local association to the state of California and the corporate sponsors might be turned off by a cultural misunderstanding that might arise. I don't hold an office in California so I cannot hire there.

We have corporate sponsors already as members of the association, but no one has offered them advertising before. The funds raised from the advertising go into continuing education for biomeds, scholarships and lobbying for bills that make medical equipment safer in California hospitals (which often gets accepted nationwide, we are the largest state association in the US). Biomeds work also prolongs the lifespan of medical equipment after manufacturers stop supporting it, therefore lowers health care costs for everyone.

Good point regarding legalities, the people involved in this would get paid from my foreign company as contractors, or consultants to my Phil company if that works. Depends what currency and where they want it I guess. But they can work out of my branch office here close to St. Paul Uni.

The time of day is due to reaching our corporate members in California during their business hours, early morning is more appealing than a night shift.

Its a flexible position, if a some days of work are missed here and there its not a big deal, this is a not for profit association we are talking about, not mission critical business.

So as you can see it's not work that is ultra interesting or world changing - basically just calling our current and past corporate members, informing them about the new website sponsorship opportunities that would allow them to put their current advertising campaigns directly in front of their end users, giving them the rates and emailing them a insertion order to hopefully approve. This is why I thought compensation would be a primary motivating factor.

Obviously a position like this would have a base hourly wage plus commission. Commission would be the same as if you were working in the US doing this for any sort of publication, 20%. Hourly wage would be on the low end of a US hourly rate.

My dad worked a part time job after a few years of retirement from a professional career at a health food store for something to keep his mind fresh and to keep from being bored. He did not do it for the money, but the extra cash paid for trips etc.. I see this as the same sort of opportunity for someone.

You would not have a boss looking over your shoulder making sure you hit a quota or anything, but of course some sponsorships need to be signed in order to keep this in a positive financial position for the association, we are non-profit and cannot afford to loose money on the weekly wage. Also the hourly wage is not why you would take this position, it would be for the commission.

 

For me, I would immediately suspect some kind of scam or MLM scheme etc but if I was absolutely convinced it was something I could do and the compensation was fair then I would have no problem with what appears to be a part time job. Many who are on the minimum pension could use a little boost and those hours would suit a great deal of expats.

 

Set up a group information meeting

I would be interested in finding out more information. I suggest since you can not receive and send Private Messages here yet. You set of a group meeting for anyone that is interested. The information could further be explained and questions could be asked. If you had the meeting at 5:30 AM at your office you would know who was really interested in working the hours you are interested in having worked. You could post the meeting time here (I think, check with moderator) and see what happens Good luck, it sound like something someone could get involved with to keep their mind sharp. I had my own professional service business for over 40 years and it is hard to get business out of my blood and coffee and donuts into my blood still. The employment issue seem to be resolved by being paid in California. I am sure you may find others like myself.

 

what nations will be approached? what accent is preferred?

 

For me not so sure I'd be interested in anything that has me actually selling or talking to live people as I simply am not a sales critter unless its a product I know and believe in. But in my opinion to get a foreigner interested I'd be thinking something around 20k+ peso's a month if couple hours a day 5 days a week or so. Remember that foreigners want to make sure its enough for their standards of living and we can easily drop 2k peso's on a single nice meal. Another source to tap is foreigner's longterm GFs/wives who many have learned a bit of the lingo and have gotten very good at English.

 

So this died ? did he get his man or was it a scam...or what?

 

Jaybee's last activity was January 9. Maybe he will get an email notification of a new post and will pop back up.

Larry