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wild cats and pet cats running wild / birds in cages

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  1. brian ausie

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    It is in many countries’s its illegal to let your cat run free especially at night, these little loveable little creatures run amuck at night causing much destruction to the already diminished wildlife, it’s also mandatory to de sex cats before breeding age unless you are a breeder, I seen a very responsible owner in AU that made a series of cages with tunnels in their back yard so their little moggy could have freedom without causing destruction to wild life and annoyance to their neighbors.
    Birds in cages in this country I believe to be a necessity as the numbers have fallen to a very dangerous level, with the human population here eating the birds and eating the eggs they don’t stand a chance, also the wild cats and the domestic cats are destroying what remains, they are too lazy to go catch rats so they will do what they do best is hunt and destroy easy prey, or climb through a foreigners window:cool:

    Images of cat tunnels for outdoors

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    Wrist rockets, rottweilers, and pellet guns do wonders for stray cats. :smile:

    I hate it when cats howl, and fight at night (let alone during the day!) and make a racket while walking on steel roofs. I lived in a neighborhood in Bacong where when the stray cats got to be too much, someone would take action to reduce their numbers (and no, it wasn't me). I didn't know Purina made -11 Lives cat food. :smile:

    I've only seen one (a bob-tailed Manx) cat here that caught a rat. They do seem to be fond of eating geckos, which I would rather not see as the geckos reduce the bug population.

    The comical thing though is that most native dogs are afraid of cats here. I've seen more than one dog get it's butt handed to him by a cat.
     
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    Abuse of animals in the R.P. carries criminal penalties. If I saw someone using a pellet gun on any animal, I would report them, regardless of the consequences to me. I now have 24 hour low light intensity surveillance and recording on and area around my residence to better catch evil doers. Better to scare them off, don't inflict long term suffering with such tactics. Also you can buy repellent sprays for them. Cats are nocturnal animals, hunting and mating at night are in their genes, they have no choice about it.
     
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    Death is not abuse. If so what do you call a local who kills and eats a dog? What is more humane, euthanasia of an animal or let it roam the streets, get sick and die, or get run over by a vehicle, or starve to death? These are wild animals, not someones pet. You are entitled to your opinion, but people are more important than animals.
     
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    The pellet guns here are running at 900fps so it’s close to a 22 which is quite adequate and humane way of disposing of feral animals, the animal do gooders would rather see an animal starve to death than cull their over populace, fruit bats and kangaroos are a good example in AU, here so many of the dogs and cats have the mange which spreads, if you feel for these poor sick and diseased animals put them out of their misery.
     
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    Rabies is something we don’t have in AU so I am very cautious about wild cats and the mangy dogs that roam the streets, so if I was confronted with a cat that I had to remove and risk getting bitten or scratched then I would do it the best and permanent way. BTW I have always had dogs and cats within my family, so I am not a cat or dog hater, just don’t like feral and out of control animals roaming, when dogs get in packs it is a very dangerous situation for children especially, I have been bailed up here myself not a good feeling, If I had a hand gun then there would have been at least 6 dogs less that day.
     
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    I got logged out and had to log back in when I tried to reply...(that is another thread!), luckily I copied it: I am an animal lover, always have been. That being said, I think there needs to be a big push to develop an animal control division to rid the streets of disease-ridden and starving animals....the humane thing for these animals is for them to be put down. Also, spaying and neutering is not affordable here, I can understand why most people do not get their pets spayed or neutered. Both of mine have been, but I was not thrilled, either, at the cost. For easy identification of rabies-vaccinated animals, they should use the color-coded tags. That could prevent some unnecessary rabies treatments having to be administered. I know, this is asking far too much here, though.
     
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    I agree.

    Also I think vets charge too much here. A standard visit to the doctor here runs me less than taking my dog to the vet. I'm getting to the point where I think it would be more beneficial for me to download the medical books for animals and do the standard care myself. I have tried Acuna and the one at heralds mansion and they really have no clue what they are doing.....if they are even in town to try to take a guess. They see the symptoms and take a guess at what's going on and use the trial and error method of prescribing medicine. After over 10k pesos of vets bills (acuna) I had to end up putting a dog down as the dog was just suffering and my wallet getting thinner.

    Agree that strays should be taken care of. There are some roads here that are extremely dangerous due to the strays running/sleeping on the pavement. I'm getting pretty ticked off with it.
     
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    If you read the posts with any comprehension you would see that the poster I replied to advocating using a pellet gun on cats. Pellet guns do not always cause death but can result in the long term suffering of the animal.
    You're comparing euthanesia with some coward shooting an animal with a pellet gun. I stand by what I said in my reply. Thanks for giving me your approval to have my own opinion, which I grant to you as well. Animals are God's creatures so I am not so sure that humans are more important than animals, just because that is your opinion (and you know what they say about opinons).
     
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    Ummm.....I've read all of the posts and comprehend them quite well I think. I think your reply was aimed at my post, so I am well aware of it, thank you. You also cherry picked it. The actual post I made (post #2) is as follows:

    Wrist rockets, rottweilers, and pellet guns do wonders for stray cats.

    I hate it when cats howl, and fight at night (let alone during the day!) and make a racket while walking on steel roofs. I lived in a neighborhood in Bacong where when the stray cats got to be too much, someone would take action to reduce their numbers (and no, it wasn't me). I didn't know Purina made -11 Lives cat food.

    I've only seen one (a bob-tailed Manx) cat here that caught a rat. They do seem to be fond of eating geckos, which I would rather not see as the geckos reduce the bug population.

    The comical thing though is that most native dogs are afraid of cats here. I've seen more than one dog get it's butt handed to him by a cat.

    It was also stated by another member in post #5:

    The pellet guns here are running at 900fps so it’s close to a 22 which is quite adequate and humane way of disposing of feral animals, the animal do gooders would rather see an animal starve to death than cull their over populace, fruit bats and kangaroos are a good example in AU, here so many of the dogs and cats have the mange which spreads, if you feel for these poor sick and diseased animals put them out of their misery.

    You stated:

    "Animals are God's creatures so I am not so sure that humans are more important than animals."

    Since you brought up God - yes, they are "God's creatures" but man was created by God higher than the animals and given the responsibility to manage them.

    Genesis 1:26 - Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals, and over all the creatures that move along the ground.”

    Animals do not have a soul, humans do. Man is more important than animals.

    To condense my opinion for you - what I am condoning is the humane dispatching of feral animals, especially troublesome ones. I've explained how to easily, and humanely do it. You may not like it, or agree with it, which is fine, but hopefully understand where I am coming from and why I posted what I did.

    I will NEVER jeopardize the safety of myself, my family, or anyone else due to an animal if it can be avoided. I can't understand how anyone would logically consider otherwise for themselves. Sticking one's head in the sand and doing nothing does not solve the problem.
     
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