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  1. Liverpool fan

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    Sure I would like that, it was Andyflip who called another a dickhead, then I post others are "punished" for less, my post deleted and the thread moved to of topic. Honestly, if not this with Notmyrealname came up, I was not spending time on this. I find this site good in many ways, I gain a lot of info from all around, food, restaurants, doctors/dentist, car parts, places to visit, and much more. I will do the same in this site as I do in real life, if I find people annoying, I move my @ss to another place. I enjoy living here in the Philippines, and will not let me get disturbed by that kind of bagatelles, have a nice and sunny day everyone
     
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  2. Notmyrealname

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    I know your style is not to delete but to reply, rate or ignore. That is fine.

    I am not sure why you wrote that posts have "every right to be deleted" - surely that must depend on the post. In my case my post was no more off topic than the moderator @DavyL200, who may have chosen to delete my post in reply to his - I cannot apportion blame as yet as no-one is telling me who deleted them. The moderator's post was writing about "drivel" and "people having nowt better to do" on a thread about relocation! On topic??? Really!

    "I think it best not to push back too hard on this issue" is really a not too subtle warning to me not to say anything about having posts unfairly deleted but to just shut up. But I am not the man to kowtow when I am being treated unfairly. So delete me if you wish, but others here will understand why. Then I join the list of those who either were deleted (we do not know) or those who gave up, for various reasons.

    Being a moderator has responsibilities of fairness and the ability to look at things from a moderator's perspective and not take things personally - if people are told to accept everything and just shut up then it seems we are being treated as children.

    Rather than being warned or banned, I should receive an apology.
     
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  3. Glendazumba

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    So accurate. Lots of things are missed on this island so you just have to brave it and try. You will be told by the nice guards when you miss something. Just don’t raise your voice because majority of the people here are nice.
     
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  4. Liverpool fan

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    I ask for a booster with Johnson and Johnson in Bacong, already got Sinovac, the answer was no, not all are vaccinated yet, I understand and respect that
     
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  5. Notmyrealname

    Notmyrealname DI Forum Luminary Highly Rated Poster Showcase Reviewer

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    This will always be the case with communication - whomsoever owns and/or moderates it has to maintain a set of standards. These standards may be in part enshrined in law, so that communication does not become illegal. With privately owned forms of communication, such as this Forum, it is entirely up to the owners and moderators to set their own standards - it gives us two choice: 1) Follow those standards 2) Find another Forum.

    I am sure this Forum was never designed to become a means of anonymously attacking other people. Also, it is not a monopoly as anyone can set up their own Forum and allow personal attacks if they wish - I am guessing that within a short time it would consist of a mere handful of members, all of whom derive joy from being nasty to each other. All the decent members, who seek information, share common ideas and hobbies, etc., would have left because that would not be why they joined.

    I think we are fortunate to have this Forum and must respect its rules - going outside the Forum if we think we cannot post here as we please.
     
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  6. Notmyrealname

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    Thanks.

    My "passion" stems from being a virologist and knowing something about the subject. I realise that if those who know nothing all listen to the anti-control brigade the World, including the Philippines, will now be in one hell of a mess

    I am not alarmed as I know what to do - I prepared for this eventuality 10 years ago. I realise that people who had no masks and no knowledge of how to keep the infection out of their bodies were alarmed - so I advised wherever I could. The main reason that masks were originally decried by governments was solely because they did not have enough in most countries. They killed many people because they took no precautions for what was a totally expected crisis - only the timing was unknown.

    I am not concerned for myself - as I said I know what to do, even if this virus was far more more contagious and lethal. My concern is for those suffering from the infection - some of whom got it from very irresponsible people who refused to follow safety rules (combined with the stupidity of governments) - and for the effects upon the World economy. It is not essential in life to be only self-interested.

    My wish is that those who refuse to follow guidelines are the ONLY ones who get the illness, but unfortunately that is not what is happening. Those who consider themselves 'safe' are not always getting ill but are helping the innocents to get ill.

    But surely it is the right time now (with some flights resuming) for guests in a country who do not wish to follow rules implemented to save lives of citizens to LEAVE and take risks with other people's lives in THEIR OWN countries instead. Sounds fair to me.
     
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  7. hiddenuser

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    Hey, i appreciate your passion about this. same for anyone else here who is alarmed and concerned. since you would be interested to know i am willing to explain my take on all this. my first point would be that it seems that there is little agreement on the statistics about coronavirus. deaths due to corona are determined at the time of death as the cause. that is a fixed statistic unless someone goes back and changes it. what is changing is the number of people with the disease which i believe should be determined by reliable testing. so, the death rate due to corona is a function of positive cases and actual deaths. the Philippines "hopes" to have done a million tests by the end of july. that is less than one percent of the population, so the death rate is rather high because of the low test rate. the US has tested more than 10 percent of its population and the death rate is much lower in part just because of the different testing statistics. the CDC in the US revealed two weeks ago that they think perhaps half of all positive tests are "false positives". if so, that would mean the number of positive cases in the US is cut in half and the death rate would be doubled. in the US, nearly half of all covid deaths are nursing homepatients. as a former nursing home administrator, i can tell you that in a one hundred bed nursing home one or two or three people are carried out the back door every week. i made the family calls on that. are those nursing home deaths truly covid? all those people had comorbidities. its a sad truth that most nursing home patients are waiting to die. three states, new york, new jersey and massachusetts account for more than 40 percent of all covid nursing home deaths. why is that? there are serious people on both sides of the questions about wearing masks, or not wearing them. about letting herd immunity develop. about accuracy of need for testing. about the risk to young people. about the future of immunization. i am not cold hearted about covid, or the regular flu, or heart disease. i have worked in healthcare all my life. death is the price of being born. yes i believe we should do what we can about preventing unnecessary deaths and especially premature deaths. it just does not seem to me that there is any agreement on what that prevention should look like, and how it compared to the same issue with dengue and liver disease and seasonal flu. covid is just one more risk factor we all face in our lives. its new so its unknown, but running in fear is not the way to deal with it. people everywhere and perhaps especially in the Philippines also need to eat. if they starve to death but do not die of covid, is that success? the Philippines is the 12th most populous country on earth but has one of the lowest absolute death tolls attributed to covid. but its one of the poorest nations in asia. it cannot keep suppressing and destroying its economy at the expense of the rice bowls of its poorest citizens. we need to stop digging foxholes and trying to defend positions based on sketchy or inadequate information. we need to talk more about this and keep track of what is really happening. covid is going to take a toll, i can see that, but we cannot keep throwing our children out of the back of the troika to try to keep the wolves at bay.
     
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  8. Rye83

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    These "fake news" accusations need to stop. People are confused because these executive orders change every day or two and many contradict what another says. STOP using the words "fake news" to describe misunderstandings. Spreading fake news is a crime in the Philippines. By accusing people of doing it you are accusing them of a crime. This will not be tolerated and you WILL receive warnings and you WILL get banned for continuing to do so.

    If you believe someone is maliciously spreading false and misleading information or conspiracy theories on the forum report it using the reporting feature. Do NOT reply to it and try to deal with it on your own. (This only brings further attention to the information.) If you believe someone has misinterpreted a rule/law/executive order feel free to comment on it.

    Warnings, points and bans WILL be issued going forward.

    @AndyG @DavyL200
     
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  9. PatO

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    To create a level playing field, only senior citizens should be allowed to purchase liquor.
     
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  10. Jens K

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    comparing case numbers here and in countries where the numbers of tests carried out are an order of magnitude,or two, larger, doesnt really say anything. We will see in a few weeks how well the virus has been really contained here. Also chinas numbers are to be taken with a grain of salt, they obviously are very interested in selling this as a big win for their f*cked up political system.
     
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