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Discussion in 'Tourist Information' started by Vicmico, Nov 26, 2011.

  1. Vicmico

    Vicmico DI Member

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    I don't intend to scare anyone, but yesterday I got the latest list of airlines banned from entering EU airspace or landing / taking off from airports in the EU and this list contained virtually every airline in the Philippines, to include PAL, Cebu Pacific and Zest. I realize that these airlines do not come to Europe (anymore) - not even PAL, but the criteria applied to ban or allow airlines includes the inability of the EU authorities to determine whether maintenance of the aircrafts and crew training are up to standards based on the reports made available to them by the airlines or local authorities. Not exactly a pleasant thought when boarding.......

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    i could not understand why would EU ban the airplanes to Europe. while most of these planes are made by airbus which is i believe also is in Europe. i believe that planes here in the philippines are reliable as most of those of the planes abroad. certainly! if you know that lufthansa technik philippines is operating also in manila which is serving most planes from around the region. they are doing maintenance, repairs and overhauls for most type of planes including Boeing and Airbus. And currently they are sending instructors to do intensive training for the A380 training in germany.
    as i can seat on those planes i can truly feel safe same as those aircraft i ride with anywhere. just dont ride with an indian airline that recently was caught having pilots with fake license. believe me! you want to jump out of those airplanes first.

    BBC - Soutik Biswas's India: India's 'fake' pilots
     
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    Vicmico DI Member

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    Kewl,

    the EU does not ban a specific make or type of airplane - it's as cited in my original posting the quality (or lack of) maintenance as supported by the required documents and / or the quality of the training and experience of the pilots that causes airlines to end up on this list. There are more than 450 different airlines in this most recent list, to include quite a few from Indonesia. Their national carrier, Garuda, was also banned and only recently allowed back on EU airstrips after proving sufficient improvement.

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    More like sufficient proof from the banned airlines according to your article. Not to defend any airline, but why should an airline submit proof of maintenance to the EU if they don't even fly there????
     
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    Simply because this listing is also a warning to travellers which come from the EU too. It provides a good tool to determine which airlines to use with a minimum risk. It doesn't mean all airlines on this listing stink but caution is neccesary.
     
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    Well, airlines in the Philippines certainly have a much better reputation for travelling between the islands than ferry's.
     
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    There is always another aspect to look at in their decision as well that they will avoid announcing. The ease involved in said airlines for a potential terrorist hijacker to take over the plane. The security here in the Philippines is a joke for the airlines along with adding in the Abu Sayaf scum who are looking to show how much Islam loves the world..... Add in how the politicians and major companies here are scared to death of offending the Muslim population here...

    Of course that aspect isn't one that would be so easily made public as it would create international relationship problems with the Philippines and we all know filipino's are very touchy on being looked at negatively.
     
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    They may choose to fly there in the future, and the process to gain accreditation can be onerous, so better to have it than want/need it urgently.

    You're quite right ChMacQueen, security is one of the aspects that is considered, along with maintenance and pilot training standards.