With all of the lockdowns I am wondering if they are considering the new wave of what I will refer to as the Covinials, those born really late this year or in the early months of 2021.

 

one of the side effects of this, for example in europe, is that the recent influx of muslim migrants means that muslims who have a much higher birthrate will become the voting majority in european nations. they are already very influential in places like london. there is a lot of speculation about wether a younger muslim working population will want to support the social commitments now in place for a largely christian older population

 

Londonstan!

 

Err, no. In order to become a voting majority the majority of adults would need to be Muslim.
In 2016, Europe had 4.9% muslims. Projections suggest that by 2050 that percentage might grow to between 7.4 and 14%, depending on migration flows.
Nowhere near a majority.
Source: https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/11/29/5-facts-about-the-muslim-population-in-europe/

 

well i eagerly went back to the net to find information to support my case and did not find it! you are correct and i am incorrect. the web site for the Pew Research Center had a very good and detailed projection by country of muslim population growth in europe under three senarios of no more immigration of muslims, medium levels of immigration and high levels. i recently read the book, "eurabia" which paints a much more grim picture and my belief probably stemmed from that. act in haste, repent at leisure. thanks for the correction!

 

Just a question. You are talking about migrants and immigrants from what I gather. Not being from that part of the World, do those countries allow immigrants or migrants to vote in elections without attaining citizenship first?

 

I would imagine that citizenship is required first, before being allowed to vote.
But to state the obvious if the majority choose to obstain to vote, the minority can take office / control.

 

I'm not surprised at these statistics at all. About half of my friends (around 40 years of age) don't have children, and don't plan to.

I read recently that the average cost of a raising a child (up to age 17/18) in Western countries is between $200,000 to $250,000 (depending on the country/ study). This doesn't even take into account college/ university costs.

I'm sure I could do better things with half a million dollars than raise two urchins

It's quite worrying that the countries with the lowest fertility rates are generally those with the most intelligent/ educated population. Precisely the kind of people who are likely to raise future scientists/ politicians/ educators/ inventors etc, not to mention also the greatest future taxpayers.

It makes one fear for the future generations somewhat........

 

For me VERY personally, and I am not reflecting here on the choices made by others, as a newly married person I looked at the sh*t World, which has got even worse, and wondered why I would want to bring a new life into it.

I support those who made the choice to have children, who love them, to whom they bring purpose and a quality within their lives - I am not ranting at you. I am pleased for you for what you have and recognise I missed some good times.