Are you confusing "Ladies men" with "Ladyboys"?

 

Think there might be a cultural element here too...Asian cultures have a tradition of a “3rd Gender”. The Hijras of India and Pakistan come to mind.

Gender Identity Disorder is done away with in DSM-V in favour of Gender Dysphoria...a Disorder being the more illness and hence discriminatory label. Dysphoria meaning a marked incongruence between a persons expressed gender and their assigned gender - which is basically socially constructed. Not my job to pathologise in short, I’ll leave that to those with political/religious agendas.

To lighter matters...I haven’t noticed the bayots on the Boulevard. But I’m rarely there after dark anyway. My own personal conclusion is that some ‘pass’ skilfully - whereas others do obvious and sometimes comedic-tragic attempts. Those with Filipina partners here might quiz them about some of the cultural beliefs about bayots here. If we get this thread moved to the controversial section I’d be happy to write about those (Philippine) beliefs. Not for the ‘family’ section of the forum.

 

I don't feel here are more ladyboys than in other asian countries, at least I am happy to live in such an open and tolerant society. great for them, great for me. only thing I wonder sometimes; why are the ladyboys mostly so ugly here? I know, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but compared to Thailand, where there are so many breathtaking beautiful ladyboys, it's really poor here. many look to me like half man, half woman as if they would be too shy to take the last step to look like a real woman. I am not talking about surgery, I know that is too expensive for most of them, for me it's just about style and appearance - a little bit more make-up, hairstyle or whatever - hope this will be improved in future :-) not for my personal well-being here; my hetero life is great :-)

 

If anyone is confused about their Gender, pull your pants down if you have a dick you are a guy, if not you are a girl.

 

When a woman put men clothing on, nobody says anything. If a man just put one single piece of women clothes then he will hear alot. Most people forgot that many of today women attire was once men attire until the french revolution. Women did fight quite well to get their hands on men clothes like pants. While most men are to frightened to broaden their wardrobe. From an anatomic aspect it would be better for women to wear pants to lower the chance of an urinary tract infect. While men should be wearing skirts to lower the chance of infertility and squeezing of the genitals. (There was a study about this but I'm sure it got removed because the result was against the western standards.

When is trans really be trans? A woman putting on all men clothes will probably still not be considered trans. I do not think, putting one to three pieces of the other gender on, will be enough to be qualified as trans. It is the complete appearance which qualifies if someone is trans or not. A man in a skirt, a dress, high heels or even in pantyhoses is not trans similar to a woman in pants, suit, men shoes or men shirt.

Anyway why do we have such big issues with people being different or outside of a narrow self/society constructed frame? Let the people being themselves and we should be happy about the variety of live.

 

For me is drag that is stated in bold in your response above.

If wearing a skirt as a man have to do with sexual gratification is unclear. Same would count for women in pants. As I was on Bali I wore a sarong and found that quite comfortable. I guess that skirt wearing men will like the comfort of a skirt especially in hot weather. Less sweating and better sun protection than in short pants. Long pants in hot climates can increase the chance for a heat stroke by a quite big margin.

The correct term for putting clothes of the opposite gender on is Crossdressing. But it is mostly used for men wearing women clothes. For women it is no longer being used due women can wear everything today including all men clothes.

 

So can a man, in womens clothes ***Image Removed by Moderator*** as long as they get it right
Sorry could not resist this