⌛ water management

i would agree with Dindo that there is still more to be done in the part of taking care of our effluents in the city. it is not just by providing septic tanks but let us think more. these is just a temporary solution but i i agree with Dindo that we have to have a waste water treatment in Dumaguete. projects like these cost more but we have to use our resources also.

also we have to think how do we take care of our effluents in our households? what do we do? what is the proper way to do it? none of this is done in by the city government that the people should also be aware of. because as i could see in the streets storm water drainage are not used anymore for its purpose. these simple things such as information dessimination can also be very important of protecting the environment. all things depends on the leaders of the the city and i dont know if they review these things. these are very simple things but if taken loosely then this will also have an impact to the city for sure.

environmental management is very easy, i guess we just need to know these things and make a program that all the people involved will be made aware of.

ow!!! excuse me? who is taking in charge of the environmetal management of the city???

 

Heads up!

Quote from Dindo "Do not just simply wash your hands by passing the buck to those who done it and just because it is already there. "Unsa gub-on nato?" is an irresponsible comment. If you do not take pains to find out the truth...it will hurt you and your people in the future. If you can sleep with that, its fine with me. It is not the pinoy sigi mag reklamo that is the problem. It is the pinoy nga wa ga pakabana sa unsa'y gibuhat sa gobiyerno ang atong problema. We should partner with gov't in these things.

Ang imong attitude is your problem. Kinahanglan tag husto nga kasilyas, gi hatagan kag arinola. Dawat ka kay naa naman na! Thats how I see your arguments from here. worse pa gyud, you content yourself with it. Where is your dignity? (sorry for the personal question). I know you mean well, but when we discuss community issues, we should put the welfare of the majority as our priority, not what we personally feel. If you can present credible arguments from experts this project is safe, I will abide and even support more projects like these to be done all over the city. Is that a deal?"


Hi Dean,

Obviously you are a person who goes around Dumaguete. For a 20 year old student, you have the privilege of enjoying the luxuries in the city and you seem to know all. From your posts, it seems like you have been to most if not all the fun places in DGT and some ares in the vicinities. From what I have observed, you could be a good tourist guide for the city.

I would like to suggest to you though not to entangle yourself with serious subject matters like the STP. As non experts, we can make our opinions. But please do not sound as if you are an expert yourself or the spokesman for parties or entities concerned.

I respect Mr. Dindo's valid points raised based from experts who brought these to this attention. I hate to see this thread end up cheap because if
(I hope and pray this will not happen anytime now or in the future) a disaster actually happens to this experiment, it is going to a very expensive price to pay! Let us join hands and look at this maturely and let constructive discussions take place ( I understand that there was not enough consultation with those concerned, or none at all!). Let me refresh your young mind...

Forum: Dumaguete City 11-21-2006, 11:16 AM
Robinsons Mall in Dumaguete
Posted By nead

^^ oh yeah.. ur right. the place used to be swampy. even don bosco main building annex sank for about 3-5 inches after a mild earthquake back then when i was still studying there.. my teacher told us...

Can you imagine something like this happenening after 20 years! I cannot. Let's leave it to the experts and limit our opinions to simply that. An opinion.

Have a good day and good luck to the years ahead of you.
Take care and God bless...

 

Something Stinks with this STP thing

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Hello Folks,
Interesting topic on the "sewer treatment facility." I would desperately like to agree with Nead that the recently constructed system is better than nothing.

But, I have a few questions that prevent me from doing so. Some of them have already been asked in this thread:

1. This project involved millions of taxpayer's pesos and important public health issues. Why was there no sufficient public comment period prior to construction? Any democracy would require that. Only a fascist government would go ahead with this type of project without consulting the public.

2. I have not seen the construction plans, but I hear the system is based on anaerobic treatment. Anaerobic bacteria produce lots of methane in addition to carbon dioxide. Methane is a fire and health hazard. Has this been addressed? A standard aerobic treatment system does not produce methane, but only carbon dioxide and water which are non-hazardous waste.

3. Has an economic feasibility study been completed? Why are millions of pesos being spent on an oversized septic tank just to treat sewage from the public market? Do politicians gain more votes from the public market? What about the rest of the tax-paying citizens-- Why isn't their sewage addressed as well? Wouldn't it be fair and more cost effective (read my lips: "CHEAPER") if a community sewage treatment facility is constructed away from the city, instead of building separate tanks for each block or section of the city?

4. If the system treats only "wastewater" (gray water) and not toilet water(black water), why waste the money at all? Septic tanks for toilet water remain and will still need to be cleaned up for sludge while they continue to pollute the groundwater and ultimately the Dumaguete bay. And Nead- don't be fooled: waste water from the public market is just as bad as toilet water. It most likely contains blood, bacteria, virus, pathogens, and other chemicals such as pesticides and volatile organics that could be toxic.

5. Do all Dumaguetenos have the same attitude as Nead? If so, then the city is doomed. This is the age of information technology as well as democracy in the Philippines. Dumaguete citizens must take an active role in developing the city. Obviously, there are concerns and questions regarding this sewage treatment facility and having an attitude of "let's wait and see if it works" is dangerous. Instead, the citizens should say: "Before construction, I want to see how this will work and I want to be able to decide whether it will be fair and beneficial to all."

In conclusion: Something stinks here (and it's not just the septic tank).

My two cents worth for now...

Moeman of New Jersey

 

Do you really mean that? If so, i suggest public awareness program on HOW TO dispose of trash properly FIRST (so that they understand it's just not good to throw trash right in front of their own house--it seems like their mindset is there will always be trash in the streets so what difference does it make if i throw trash in the street...makes sense in odd filipino way i guess ), before expecting them to intelligently debate the sewage disposal problem in duma.

 

dang.. gkasab.an ko da. wew.. k k. u guys continue.. ill observe.. i do still have so many things to learn and i know i myt learn sumthin frm this discussion..

 

Welcome Dindo

There is only one Dindo nga Dumagitnon kaa-yo,

A product of The University Town

- kuting

 

For Hannah. I hope you can locate this thread so you can have a short 5pages of personal views on the STF at the Dumaguete Park. Gives you very varied opinions on understanding/misundertanding of this facility. Good luck...

 

Yes! I found this thread, tonyrems

..thanks tonyrems, i found this interesting and controversial topic. its a good thing like this shows up as anyone will know both sides of the coin. if i have time next week, i will share what i know about this matter.

hannah

 

Dumaguete WWTP

What I learned from my Lakbay Aral on this Dmgte Wastewater Treatment Plant.... indeed, it is a controversial issue in the city...the WWTP is something new, and to most people if they do not understand it, they refuse to understand it, and consequently, they dont accept it..... for those who know what better alternatives, obviously do question it too.

i learned from the City ENR Office that LGU-Dumaguete City had joined with Local Initiatives for Affordable Wastewater Treatment (LINAW-USAID) for the construction of the WWTP..the construction cost is P3M... there had been series of public hearings before the construction of the plant and there are also future plans for another treatment plant to cater wastewater sources from hospitals, households, public markets, and other sources. The presence of the flowering plants are there to absorb the CO2 gases being emitted. The BOD (or biochemical oxygen demand) is quarterly being monitored and the average is about 30 to 37 mg/L, it is part of the required self-monitoring reports (SMRs) being submitted by the LGU to DENR in a quarterly basis. this BOD is a parameter to assess the quality of a waterbody or rather a standard test used in assessing wastewater strength. the DENR standard depends on the water classification of the waterbody. in this case, according to Engr. Dick Encabo is 50 mg/L. (but what i know is about 30mg/L)

Compared to Bayawan WWTP, the Bayawan WWTP has a lower BOD and the final treated wastewater is clearer and has no smell at all. This Plant is the 1st of this type in the country- constructed/artificial wetland, constructed for the Gawad Kalinga Fishermen’s Village (about 350 Households). Constructed by LGU-Bayawan City with technical assistance provided by GTZ (German Technical Cooperation Agency) through its Water and Sanitation Program. GTZ is trying to replicate this to other LGUs. The plant is engineered with two beds utilizing natural (biological filtering system) filtration (treatment medium using sun filters) planted with tabon-ak, local variety of Phragmites karka, with vertical and horizontal subsurface flow. Compared to Dmgte WWTP, the BOD of filtered wastewater averaged about 3.7 mg/L.

Hannah