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  1. pickled_newt

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    Thailand has improved a lot from foreign investments and developments more in its tourism industry which has put in a lot for the thai economy.When people are happier,there's peace.You are more likely pick pocketed in Manila than in Bankok.What has happened to Thailand isn't a disaster. What is a disaster is for a country that can barely feed it's own people.The more expats and foreign retirees coming to the Philippines to live shows the country is healthy to live and visit.It will improve the tarnished image of the Philippines abroad.They bring investments and more money coming in,giving jobs to many filipinos including the builders.They consume average local farm produce which is good to filipino farmers.They use local services from filipinos who are craving for employment like the maids,gardeners,laundry ladies etc.
    Though they drive prices up in coastal areas,but as you go more inland prices can still be affordable to locals.

    I don't think foreigners coming to reside in the Philippines is bad as seeing so many poor starving filipinos around with less chances for a good future.
     
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    Well said Pickled Newt !!

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    I disagree Thailand is a disaster at least environmentally and socially.
    Tourism is like alcohol in moderation its good for you but in excess
    its deadly. Most of the islands in tHAILAND have full blown liver cyrhosis.
    The only people to benefit have been politicians, prostitutes and
    local mafia and already rich and greedy developers.
    Almost no coral is left in these beach areas in Thailand. The phrase paradise lost comes to mind. If you think the situation would be any better
    in the Philippines then you are dangerously naive.
    Evidence of how things would go would be the examples OF Puerto Galera and Borocay both of which are on the verge of environmenmtal ruin.
    Tourism istslef also breeds crime. The big talk in puerto is of a korean who raped and stabbed to death a local 13 year old girl. He appears to have got away with it as money talks and the koreans more or less own the area. They own most of the bars and many hotels.
    I don't know where you have heard that bangkok is so safe. Frequent reoprts of foreigners being beaten half to death are quite common.
    My gf in Bangkok has a degree and works in a bank but only earns 10,000
    baht a month. Due to the area she works being a bit touristy she cannot afford anywhere to live there and has to commute for 1.5 hours
    and every month is a struggle. Tourims has not benefiited here.
    I would not like to see Negros go the same way as these other tourist traps.
    The recent crime wave i s I'm sure in direct response to the increased tourism. gangsters in the region would have been attracted by this.
    So before you start building big villas etc, think about this
     
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    Whilst working in a poor part of central africa we were told not to gigve money away or excessively over pay for goods. The reason being that this would totally disrupt the local economy and corrupt the locals.
    I like to help out but ytou have to think first abouit the consequences.
    Too much money too soon to a poor area is never a good thing.
    Same as you would never give a semi starved person a feast
    too much food too quickly would kill them
     
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    Actually Yabs, I agree with you on many points. Excess always breeds excess !

    Too much money, food, environmental changes, etc., when introduced in abundunce, or too quickly, can actually cause as many problems, as they cure.

    I just hope that Dumaguete can keep it's wonderful flavor and attitude. We will do everything we can when we move over.

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    well glad you agree but it will change and change nowadays
    in the world of globalisation is ALWAYS for the worse in my opinion unless
    you have a penchant for new mobile phones that can cook your dinner for you.
    There is already talk of a big passnger ferry terminal being built which will
    obvioulsy change dumaguete with more people coming in and with the new mall opening Investors are already taking a big interest. This is all bad news if you like the diving and other natural attractions around the city.
    There is also talk of an internationla airport on Panglao island off Bohol.
    Another environmental disaster in the making. By a curious twist of fate our allies in the fight against the spread of concrete, commercilization and
    environmental ruin are the muslim extremists and NPA. They have thus far kept developement at bay.
    One example of "good" tourism though where the locals really have beniffited and where their quality of life has drastically improved is APO island
    although its a shame we have to "bribe " them not to dynamite.
    emphasis here is on small scale commun ity based eco tourism.
    Its a pity the borocays, puerto galeras and mactans don't learn from this.
    Of course governments and international investors hate this kind of tourism.
     
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    Bayawan City Boulevard scenes

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    Bayawan City Boulevard, soon to be the longest in the Philippines, with plenty of beach front
     
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    Good points there yabs...Really its painful to know and to be facing all these things that are brought about by development. But between having all the evils of progress, and the evils of remaining poor, or having to send our workers outside the country, or not having food on their table during mealtime, which do you think is worse? We have to choose.
     
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    depends how you define poor
     
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    The only thing which keeps the Philippines poor is its oevrpopulation and
    pollution and destruction of marine environemnt through illegal fishing practises. I would class someone living in a concrete jungle
    like cebu , workinmg in macdonalds say and thenliving in substandard housing
    and not being able to get fresh food as poorer than someone living on say Apo island and having access to fresh seafood everyday.
    The former may appear to be "richer" due to havinmg a flashier mobile phone but thats about it. In a country with natural resources such as the Phils noone should go hungry if planned properly.
    More concrete and tourism will nothing to address the main hindrances of overpopultion and environemntal degradation but merely make it worse.
    The folly of countries like the Phils is trying to compete and compare themselves to the west. If the West was so greta why do we all want to move to countries like the Phils? The Philippines has one main asset that most
    western nations can only dram of and thats its oustanding natural beauty
    which hasn't been ruined in the name of "?progress"
    To me the choice is not between tradition and remaining poor or
    "progress" and getting wealthier. The choice is proper management of ones resoures and population or to choose "progress" and with that the march of concrete and environmental destruction for the sake of such "luxuries"
    as mobile phones. In essense the Philippines needs to think of the future and nnot fall into the trap of so many other asian countries such as thailand
    by only thinking of economic gain TODAY without thought to the future.
     
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