still illegal and big potential problem Yes, I know what the poster meant. REGARDLESS of the intentions or situations ("decent" or not), you CANNOT employ MINOR for a domestic help. As i said many households do employ minors, and the law looks the other way. But for expats, this could become something serious legal problem. NEVER HIRE a minor for employment... p.s. whats wrong with 62yo???
I don't like the idea of hiring children,but if it's one way to help them reach their aspirations for school ,I don't mind helping them up ,doing as puti tigbaw was refering to,ofcourse don't give them massive domestic work load,otherwise it doesn't fit the purpose.Though ,I don't know now how tough is the anti child labour law in PI.
The law is there. Not enforced, UNLESS you are a big corporation or EXPATS (i.e. easy clear targets). For example, jollybees CANNOT hire less than 18yo, or else they get into big trouble. Same, if expat is seen/heard with minor under employee, they are easy pickens for all kinds of extortions or other torture methods...U will find out how tough/strict the local laws are ONCE u get personally involved... Just DONT do it. If you really want to send a poor kid true highschool, just give them the d*mn money. Let local good samaritans do it--here ye all expats! Dont get mixed up!
The question is how much they can help you if they are in school ??? school starts around 7 in the morning and lasts until 4 or 5 pm. then they have homework, and after that they start cleaning house and washing cloth? I think that will not work out. Better look for a mid-aged maid who send her kids to school, this way you really support the education of the kids... cheers Rhoody
Since we are in discussion of possibly employing minors as domestic helper... Word of caution: When in foreign country, whether or not you feel the laws are strictly enforced, ABIDE by them...especially in a 3rd world country such as RP where greed & corruption abounds, where suspects have few or no rights at all in a judicial system. And in case of accusation of sexual assault or rape of a minor for whatever the accuser's motive is (hmm...maybe you're a rich foreigner?), 9 out of 10 times the authorities and court will have no sympathy for you & treat you as if you are guilty until such time you are able to prove that you're innocent...and should that's the case it would likely mean spending years in hard prison and loads of just bribing your way/case through their system with little guarantee that you'd prevail in the end. My advise: If you're foreigner/guy do not hire underage girls & never ever be alone in your house or apartment with one.
Oh, yes. Thats the other thing. The LAW prohibits an adult male to be alone in a CONFINED environment, such as house/car with a minor ALONE. That means, theoretically, u cant even drive ur neighbors minor daughter to school.
If in the UK ,US or in any country in the west with very stringent Child protection laws then one has to be careful if it happens in company with a minor.In the Philippines where consistent injustice /child abuse in diff angles prevail , I don't think anyone get questioned if in the literal sense seen with minor in confined spaces,unless there's someone protesting against it. Where's the justice of those starving children seen begging in the streets prostituting themselves around Cebu and Manila elsewhere ,where the basic needs aren't meet,they are poor lifeforms intending to survive .Those are the indications that this country doesn't mind about the children in those circumstances ,even put a blindeye from seen physical and sexual abuses to those children .The Social sevices are lacking vigor or direction,perhaps with very vague laws,many working in social services field are only sitting in their assess.
In the U.S., there is no SPECIFIC LAW against an unrelated adult being in confined environs with a minor. In phil, there is... Who knows why? But its there. So there u have it. Justice? Whenever i see rich filipinos in manila drive in their benz and hummer and porche, it makes me wanna puke. These filipinos have absolutely no class and shame. I guess if they HAD class and shame, they probably wouldnt cheat and steal to get rich in the first place...
If in the UK ,US or in any country in the west with very stringent Child protection laws then one has to be careful.In the Philippine where consistent injustice /child abuse of children in diff angles prevail , I don't think anyone get questioned if in the literal sense seen with minor in confined spaces,unless there someone external protesting against it. Where's the justice of those starving children seen begging in the streets prostituting themselves around Cebu and Manila elsewhere ,where the basic needs aren't meet,they are poor lifeforms intending to survive .Those are the indications that this country doesn't mind about the children in those circumstances ,even put a blindeye from seen physical and sexual abuses to those children .The Social sevices are lacking vigor or direction,perhaps with very vague laws,many working in social services field are only sitting in their assess. There was a Dutch national married with a filipina living in Dauin where they adopted over 10 children from mindanao without parents consent ,they all bring those children to Negros.The parents where looking for them and one parent came to Dumaguete to find them, asked the help of Social services,eventually they found them in Dauin.The Dutch and pinay wife send the children to School ,however upon further investigation some of the children divulged Mr so and so took a lot of pictures of them and some foreign visitors took photos of them with unsuitable clothing or bare,what is this about?something smelly and not right . The Dumaguete Social services can't even find this dutch bloke.But here comes a child protection dumaguete representative with the surname of Canete blah blah further investigated and look in and could see nothing worth worrying,d*mn how did he know ?The conclusion , everything was fine. The social services had settled in for it, did nothing .If that happened here In UK,this foreign national and wife should have beed grilled and investigated further on by police and social services with items from their home confiscated like computers in search of further evidence . Taking children from their own families unknowingly is unlawful in the first place.They should be penalized for that for the strees and expense of the poor filipino families looking for their children and should be facing damages . It was said this Filipina wife was a distant relative of those children,but even in that grounds ,no one should act irresponsibly taking those children without proper consent from each parents regardless how poor they are.The social services should have acted upon and intervened in those circumstances face by children and parents .There was no further question after that ,and who knows what happened to those children , are they groomed for something ? I bet the dumaguete social workers haven't encountered the word 'Paedophilea' ,they might mistake this as something sold in JOLLIBEE.:p
