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Foul play or suicide?

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  1. FuriousRose

    FuriousRose DI New Member

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    we were also checked-in at the same floor the time he was found
    we were about to get out for dinner when we noticed people outside that room some SOCO and staff's then somebody said someone died

    we did not stay and ask what happened, wouldn't want to see that crime scene and to think I would just see it here with that news link

    I'm not really sure if guests would be questioned but I was half expecting it but weren't, wouldn't know if we'd seen him anyway as we have no idea how he looks like
    and we were mostly out but I think the staff was questioned
    they were a bit nervous I guess they were afraid to be scapegoats
    to be honest I wasn't able to sleep that night I was thinking how that could happen and I'm also afraid of ghosts :o

    good thing that incident didn't mar our first vacation in dumaguete
    its also a good base for nearby provinces like bohol, siquijor and cebu
    we really enjoyed our stay and looking forward to the next one
    we just know which room to avoid :p
     
  2. jjrbus

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    In the US any two bit police department could eaisely spend one quarter of a million dollars investigating this. Thats 1/4 of a million of your tax :greedy:$$ Any hack lawyer could convince a jury of idiots that the forienger in the next room did it, all at public expense of course. Except for the guy in the next room will have to spend his life savings and mortgage his house to keep from going to prison.
    Maybe if the PI's placed a high tax on expats and tourist facilitys they could afford to do things right!!!!!
     
  3. KTM

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    Hmm, perhaps if they did that, they wouldn't need to "do things right anymore". With the possibly of high taxes, Expats, (foreign and local), might not want to come back/here anymore, spending their valuable tourist Dollars, Euros, Pounds etc etc for the local/national economy? :rolleyes:
     
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    "Maybe if the PI's placed a high tax on expats and tourist facilitys they could afford to do things right!!!!!"

    WTF are you talking about, jjrbus? Law enforcement, including the necessary investigation of crimes is a responsibility of government in any national jurisdiction. The resources expended on this function should apply equitably to the need as crime is an offence first against the state. Just as you socialize the response to the need, you also socialize the acquisition of the resources: no special burden for one part of the community.

    That said, crime against foreigners seems less heinous than that against natives. Another case in point is that of a Canadian woman found dead at the Fontana Leisure Park in northern Pampanga province:

    CANOE -- CNEWS - Canada: Family doubts police claim Cdn found dead in Philippines was suicide

    Is this a suicide as the police state or a murder as the family believes? Is this alleged crime being down-played because a foreigner is involved?
     
  5. jjrbus

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    Of course it is the responsibility of Goverment!!! Unfortunately it takes money to pay for the things that we think the Goverment should do. In the PI's they do the best they can with what they have. Anybody that is not happy with the way they do things and make noise about how things should be done like we do them back there should either pay up or go back to where they do things the right way!!
    Where would you suggest the PI's get the money to do things the "right way" perhaps tax the farm workers that make 100 peso's a day? That would quickly pay for a state of the art DNA facility in Duma!!
     
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    “Government is the great fiction through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else.”

    Frederic Bastiat
     
  7. bold.and.beautiful

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    I'm a journalist based in Dumaguete and I and some reporters were there at the hotel while the police and crime scene operatives were investigating the incident. (I HAVE PICTURES THAT YOU WOULD NOT EVEN WANT TO LOOK AT...FROM BLOODIED BEDSHEETS TO THE BODY LYING ON THE BATHROOM FLOOR ALREADY IN A STATE OF DECOMPOSITION!) Glad to hear you (THE OTHER GUEST QUOTED BY THE NEGROS CHRONICLE) had seen Guido Dauerer shortly before his death. Perhaps it would interest you if the police chief would contact you for possible additional info? The police said it was suicide based on forensic investigation/post mortem investigation. Now, if you think there was foul play involved, I suggest you cooperate with the police. Any little information would help. I must say this: not too many people wanted involvement in this case, starting from hotel staff who were resistant at first to have the police interview chambermaids, etc. I can't blame you and your lady friend if you don't feel safe in Dumaguete. In fact, it's a big dilemma for the police here as victims of simple crimes like cellphone snatching DO NOT COOPERATE! By that, I mean, when the victims' stolen items are returned to them, they are happy and walk away, and don't even bother to file a case against the suspect/s who, of course, get to repeat the crime over and over again. :(
     
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    FURIOUS ROSE, we spoke to a gentleman and a lady that were on their way out from their room at the time of the crime scene investigation. They asked us what was happening. I don't know if you were that lady, but I do remember that that couple did stop for a few questions but didn't stay long enough to know more details of the crime.
     
  9. Kenny

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    Does anyone here think that a suicide/homicide gets any more attention in New York City or Washington D.C. or other major urban area in the States. I can't speak for other countries but I grew up in N.Y. and lived in D.C. for 3 years. I have 2 brothers who are retired cops, one a N.Y.P.D. detective. If it isn't a spouse or g.f./b.f. they usually depend on an informant. That CSI stuff plays well on TV but rarely in real life.
    I feel sorry for anyone who looses their life but it is usually not the job of police to provide individual security. In the States police are expected to provide security for society but have no responsibility to the individual.
    People should live and travel where they are comfortable. I find the police here do a pretty good job; at times I am glad they don't do a better job. If you want excitement I can direct you to some of the streets in Brooklyn and the Bronx where I grew up.
     
  10. Loki

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    $$

    In some third world countries like Marocco or Santa Domingo , westerners are highly protected - because they bring :greedy:$. But in Philippines, local or foreign life have the same 'small' value ... probably 100$ less.

    The family of the German guy can still ask their local police to launch and investigation and they would have the case reopened with their Philippinos counterparts.
     
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