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  1. Cybervlad

    Cybervlad DI Member

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    Hi all,

    I am trying to make word-for-word translation of famous "Magellan" song by Yoyoy Villame:
    Magellan - Yoyoy Villame - Songs & OPM Lyrics
    So, despite text in English, I can't understand the last string on the sentence:

    Magellan landed in Limasawa at noon
    The people met him very welcome on the shore
    They did not understand
    The speaking they have done
    Because Kastila gid at Waray-Waray man

    In this context, "Waray-Waray man" is a man speaking waray-waray language?
    Or "bigfoot like creature"? As quoted in:
    Waray-Waray language - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    "Kastila" - mean "a Spanish man"?

    Also, I don't understand a word "gid". Possible some kind of local slang?

    As a result, I can't catch the meaning of the last string quoted above - why they don't understand speaking? :smile:

    p.s. Yes, English is not my "mother tongue", especially Philippino dialect :smile:
     
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    richard08 DI Member

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    Gid is an ilonggo term,,,the visaya of that is "gud" yoyoy loves to mixed diffirent Filipino dialect, heheh
     
  3. Stefan

    Stefan DI Junior Member

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    I could be wrong here but since many words in the different filippino languages have spanish connections. I would guess that kastila is "house" or castle, villa or something since castillo have that mening in spanish.
    Cebuano for horse is similar to the spanish caballo.
    A little more far fetched but still connected is world like dog Iro and spanish "perro". When spoken not much difference.

    So in a way.. knowing some basic spanish might help learning Visayan and also perhaps tagalog and other dialects.

    Stefan
     
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    balustre DI Member

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    Translation

    Vlad,
    The last line has to do with Magellan meeting the native Filipinos. The reason why they could not understand each other is because Magellan is a Spaniard speaking Spanish (Kastila) while the natives speak "Waray-waray". "man", "gid", and "because" are equivalent while "at" is not in English here but the Tagalog for "and". So basically the last line says that One is speaking in Spanish while the other is speaking in Waray-waray.
     
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    rechel DI Forum Adept

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    correct now you got the reason they magellan and other side speack waray waray cant understand each other... :smile::smile:he he he,,, :D
    and here in our country we have a lot of dialic... sometime even we both Filipino cant understand each others,,, how if Magellan on that time can't even speack tagalog or visaya.. and wrong timing on that time he speak to waray waray.. base on the lyrics of the song... :Dkawawa...:smile:
     
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    Cybervlad DI Member

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    Guys, thanx a lot!
    Now everything is clear :smile:
     
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    it means they both wont be able to understand each other because Magellan is spanish speaking and the poeple in limasawa is waray speaking, one of the local dialect here in the philippines....
     
  8. Hugo

    Hugo DI New Member

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    Being Portuguese, I can't help making an off-topic remark:
    Magellan, or more correctly Magalhães, was Portuguese.

    In case you were just stating him being a Spaniard because of the lyrics themselves, I apologize in advance for being a smartass :P
     
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    Panday Pera DI Forum Adept

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    Good point. He is indeed Portuguese in a Spanish Expedition so he may indeed be speaking in Spanish.
     
  10. Stefan

    Stefan DI Junior Member

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    Yes He was a Portuguese and the fleet was from spain and he pass through the magellan straits arount 1520 crossing the pacific over to the philippines.
    around 1522 he was killed by a spear at Mactan island by the warrior Lapu-Lapu
    together with about 18 of his crewmen. To my knowledge he went in to a fight between the island of Cebu and Mactan and got killed.

    So he would most likely speak spanish as well as portuguese (they are closely related languages together with other roman languages.

    Stefan
     
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