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Do we stay or do we go?

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    firefly DI Senior Member

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    Yes, and when the parents fill the "doggie" bag, the children start singing


    We get a dog, we get a dog we get a dog........at last.
     
  2. Brucewayne

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    I agree completely, even the Catholics in the U.S. don't have to endure such domination as the church imposes here.
    That is only because they have the moxie to stand up and say no.
    Here, they go on unquestioning the authority and are repressed even more for their faithfullness.
     
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    Foreigners for the most part don't stay in PI long for the same reasons they aren't moving to poor remote areas with iffy police protection, schools, medical care, and courts in their own countries?
     
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    true but a lot of the countries with a higher birthrate are starting from a small
    base and also have a lot higher infant mortality rate
    List of countries by infant mortality rate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    overpopulation is a hugh problem here, not helped at all by the church
    its one reason i would not think of staying long term here
     
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    In my opinion, the reasons to leave are outnumbered by the ones to stay.....I remember living as a child at my grandparents countryside home where they had water hand pumps, boiling the water for a bath, chicken roaming around....to me is much like a step back in time and love most of it. I love the friendly people, the fresh and good food, the almost unspoilt nature trails, the weather, the walks on the beach collecting shells and rocks, admiring the sunset, taking pictures of flora and fauna and, most of all, I love my pinay wife of 25 years....I like much less the stray dogs, the garbage, the red tape, the many alcoholic people hanging around, the crazy driving manners and relatives constantly trying to leech you dry. I can live without fast food, cable tv, booze and many of the luxuries us westeners are used to... Then again I only visit Dumaguete for a few weeks a year so I'm not really qualified to comment. Something to remember though, are the reasons why so many pinoys are seeking a better life abroad....I'm not sure burning the bridges and waving goodbye to your country of origin is such a good idea. Lastly one has to ask himself "would I really live here if it was not for my wife/girlfriend..."?
    Cheers, Marco.
     
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    Leaving while you still happy not unhappy

    for the foreigner to dicide to stay or to go is all up to them.
    You stay because you are happy and contented, you go because you are not happy and uncontented of the situation as simple as that.

    Money can buy a house but not a home.
    Money can buy bed but not sleep.
    Money can buy books but not brains.
    Money can buy medicine but not health.
    Money can buy luxuries but not culture.
    Money can buy amusement but not happiness.
    Money can buy companions but not friends.
    Money can buy flattery but not respect.

    For us filipinos leaving our country. It is because, we want too, and we have the opportunity. Most of all, because , not for a selfish reason,it's because we want to help our family and country.We filipinos abroad doing what we can to help our own and country.And we gladly and happy doing that.Blood (family) is only that matter.
    So for those , that have good life to live , be grateful and be happy that you have such blessing.

    About the church and the country. One has each own religion. Either your God or your own self. No one can force one to believe to the one that he/she doesn't believe.

    Look at the muslim, buddish, hindu, protestant....etc, So why we filipino are be diffirent with our religion ?

    Hopefully, understanding and being sensible to one another needs, be a practice that each one should be learning in their daily life.
     
  7. Union Jack

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    You see, this is my dilemma.....I admire the many pinoys/pinays that after great efforts make it abroad, working long hours and often being exploited by unscrupolous employers, yet they put up with it and keep going for the sake of offering a better future to their kids or siblings. Many are working as nurses or caretakers in a very dedicated manner and we own them great respect and gratitude. The big issue is when to stop looking after their now not so youngs and the rest of the family and think about looking after their own retirement.
    The lucky ones are the ones staying in the Phils, enjoying all the benefits of having relatives abroad, yet, ever so often, showing little or no gratitude, as if this kind of arrangement is to be expected from your relative abroad.
    When or will it ever be enough? The fact that their so called lucky relative married a westener to many signifies a non ending bonanza. Then you got to look after the needs of your nephews/ nieces....when does it end?
     
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    diamond was dug from dirt

    Union Jack,
    Life has its own purpose. Out of those we help one will come out and step up in our shoes and will continue the cycle of helping the next generation. No matter how rotten one look at the files of garbage, one will find treasure in it. One should understand, we always looking forwand to come home. Even, it takes us here a life time to do so. Looking forward is a much better feeling than knowing no one is waiting for you back home.

    For the foreigner, make your self at home where you are and show ordinary people that you are human as they are, you have money, but you work hard on it. Show the people around you that you are not different. Inform, help to educate them what life you have where you came from not of what they see on the TV or Hollywood movies.

    Filipina wife play the big rule . They are the bridges that will connect their husband or boyfreind to the community around them to make their relationship a success. . Not that knowledge that their foreigner husband is a goldmine that will produce money making.
    One own success story truly belie in our own doing.
    What come in much come out.:wink:
     
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    Done that! Hours spent explaining that money does not grow on trees and it is earned the hard way, high taxes eating a big slice of it, long stressful working hours, I'm a working class guy not living in luxury.......
    First question asked after all that was....how come all long noses are so rich?
    Spent money to send nephews to a good school, not for my benefit but theirs...just for them to spend it with their friend playing billiard or worse and faking results.....amen!
    Now a few years later and a much wiser person, I decided that enough is enough so no more milking the "rich" uncle and their faces have changed from smiling that they were to angry and spiteful.
    Turn the other cheek and be a sucker all my life? No way!!:wink:
     
  10. Brucewayne

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    Been there, done that!
     
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