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Just a bit of church influence?

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  1. Happy She & Me

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    Explain your last sentence..... share your knowledge about Philippines history.

    Thanks,
    Benjamin
     
  2. Happy She & Me

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    Do you know when the last constitution was written and how it reads?

    If you can't see a difference, well, maybe it is time to open both eyes and ears. Listening to my wife's family talking about how it was back in the old days.....what a difference....one is FREEDOM.
    Of course there is an improvement.....but still, thanks to church and taboo about family planning and contraceptives.....Way to many babies are popping out. THAT IS WRONG!
    Biggest problems in Philippines.....OVERPOPULATED and UNDEREDUCATED.
    Still, Philippines is a very good country to live in and most people are happy and friendly.

    Benjamin
     
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    And also figure, there's another side to that -- with all the wealthy nations now having too-few kids, rapidly-aging populations -- the Phil having lots of youngsters is going to be an economic advantage -- OFWs will keep increasing.
     
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    Maybe sometime in the future, but what with worldwide economic woes and wars popping up, I don't think we will see much if any improvement in the near future.
    OFW's are being sent back here by the boatload, a large group was just shipped out of Libya and as the Mideast unrest spreads, you can count on many more thousands of jobs going down the toilet.


     
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    :( That being the case, I see an even greater need to have birth Control. If the OFW are returning home then the knock is going to be a big problem.


    Jack P.
     
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    You're right about that in #24, Brucewayne -- my theory was about "in the long-run", and there are many big IFs involved, like whether the global economy will ever recover to like it was...
     
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    You know, I think the U.S, economy (and most other countries) will, but with fuel prices and taxes going up through the roof and now U.S. Social Security having problems collecting enough to pay the retirees, I think we may be in for a long and bumpy ride.
    The battles, wars or power struggles in the mideast have gone on for years, first shifting to one country, then to another and I don't know (nobody really does) how or when all of that will finally end up.
    If the larger nations don't put more effort into alternate fuel and relax their dependence on fossil fuels soon, we will be in for a real scary economic turn.
    Right now, I feel that the high prices are too lucrative for the politicians/oil companies to allow anything truly feasible to take the place of gasoline and diesel.
    Even the nations would lose money that they collect from fossil fuels in the way of high taxes, never mind that it is destroying the middle class and building a larger lower class society.
    As I always say, "Money over life" and that seems to be the way of the world.
     
  8. Kenny

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    Heh Benjamin,
    I arrived here in 1979 and don't have to ask anyone how it was before the revolution. The whole country was ecstatic at the time. I worked as an unpaid consultant for the Philippine Tourism Authority for about a year along with many others who thought that it was going to be so much different. Soon after Cory took office her family, especially her brother in law, started milking the cow as well as any Marcos crony ever did. Towards the end of the Marcos years the area I lived in came under NPA control. When Marcos was overthrown The just about disappeared. Slowly as they saw that no real change was happening they came back.
    We were importing rice under Marcos, we import more now. Under Marcos the best and brightest left to become OFW. Now they still leave. The freedom your wives family is talking about is the freedom to sell your vote to the highest bidder. Over population was a problem, it still is.
    Could go on but will bore the list with the rest another day.
    I love this place but really don't think It will ever significantly change. Just saying
    Kenny
     
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    The 3rd world!


    Kenny! I get the impression that you are a realist, way back in the 70's we saw the same thing happen in UGANDA, RHODESIA, IVORY COAST, SOMALIA and the list goes on. No real effort has been paid to these countries. Like you, I love it here and at the age now where it matters not to me BUT Corruption will continue, Children will starve, OFW will still migrate and then find they are on thier own when the SHF, Some say just go with the flow, years ago I would have said NO! but her we are, beds made, so all we can do is lay on them. Over Poulation is the problem and this is what this Thread is realy about, The Churches attitude to what WE! the people know is right. I just worry for My Children, well all chldren in fact.
    Jack P. :smile:
     
  10. Kenny

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    Hi Jack,
    You have obviously been there and done that. Back to the original thread. I mentioned a run in with the church in an earlier post on this thread. The man who conducted the government population control training was my friend and a member of the parish. He was never mentioned by the priest who incidentally had two illegitimate children living just across from me.
     
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